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Pat
Z 7b Charlotte, NC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <alexis@conev.org>
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple


> I saw the posts on hardy kiwis. I have 5 varieties and have been 
> propagating them out for years, planting them in orchards around central 
> VA. I consistently get fruit on 2nd or 3rd year vines. You have to prune 
> them. I put a pamphlet on my website that covers this issue among others. 
> They are frost sensitive, so that is something you have to plan for in 
> terms of location.
> http://conev.org/slackerspamphletsoutheast1.pdf
> Alexis
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> >    1. tastes like pineapple (mIEKAL aND)
> >    2. Re: tastes like pineapple (Pat Armstrong)
> >    3. Re: tastes like pineapple (Hector Black)
> >    4. Re: tastes like pineapple (Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov)
> >    5. Re: seaberry processing (Stephen Sadler)
> >    6. air layering (Richard MURPHY)
> >    7. Re: tastes like pineapple (John S)
> >    8. Re: tastes like pineapple (mIEKAL aND)
> >    9. Off topic, Oyster Mushroom (Jwlehman@aol.com)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:46:41 -0500
> > From: mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
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> > Am now getting the first batch of hardy kiwis from some a. arguta  vines 
> > I planted almost 20 years ago & finally found a male (Meader) to 
> > pollinate it.  They are twice the size of the a. kolomikta fruits &  have 
> > very strong hints of pineapple.  Skins are tougher & more present  than 
> > the kolomikta as well.  Virtually impossible to tell if they are  ripe by 
> > sight, have to squeeze each one.  These unpruned fines are  grown up a 
> > few ash trees & I see some fruit up to 30 - 40 feet up.
> >
> > ~mIEKAL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:47:46 -0400
> > From: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher@carolina.rr.com>
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > Message-ID: <105FB643F5214BD08E6CF044B69C65B2@PatPC>
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> >
> > I hope I don't have to wait that long.....I planted my male and female 
> > this past fall.
> >
> > P
> > Z-7b US
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:46 PM
> > Subject: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> >
> >
> >
> > > Am now getting the first batch of hardy kiwis from some a. arguta  vines 
> > > I planted almost 20 years ago & finally found a male (Meader) to 
> > > pollinate it.  They are twice the size of the a. kolomikta fruits & 
> > > have very strong hints of pineapple.  Skins are tougher & more present 
> > > than the kolomikta as well.  Virtually impossible to tell if they are 
> > > ripe by sight, have to squeeze each one.  These unpruned fines are 
> > > grown up a few ash trees & I see some fruit up to 30 - 40 feet up.
> > >
> > > ~mIEKAL
> > >
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> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:23:31 -0500
> > From: "Hector Black" <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>
> > To: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher@carolina.rr.com>, "North American Fruit
> > Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
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> > It took me 8 years to get fruit.  I didn't realize that the new growth in 
> > spring is as tender as tomato.  It contains the flower buds.  If you 
> > cover them  if they sprout before a last frost, they could make it 
> > though..  Well worth the trouble.  We pick them hard and let them ripen 
> > at room temp. or keep them for a week or two in the frig. to slow 
> > ripening, bring out when you want them to ripen.  They're getting quite 
> > popular at the local farmer's market.    Hector black, zone 6 middle TN
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher@carolina.rr.com>
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> >
> >
> >
> > > I hope I don't have to wait that long.....I planted my male and female 
> > > this past fall.
> > >
> > > P
> > > Z-7b US
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:46 PM
> > > Subject: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Am now getting the first batch of hardy kiwis from some a. arguta 
> > > > vines I planted almost 20 years ago & finally found a male (Meader) to 
> > > > pollinate it.  They are twice the size of the a. kolomikta fruits & 
> > > > have very strong hints of pineapple.  Skins are tougher & more present 
> > > > than the kolomikta as well.  Virtually impossible to tell if they are 
> > > > ripe by sight, have to squeeze each one.  These unpruned fines are 
> > > > grown up a few ash trees & I see some fruit up to 30 - 40 feet up.
> > > >
> > > > ~mIEKAL
> > > >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:48:36 -0400
> > From: Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov
> > To: Hector Black <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>, North American Fruit
> > Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
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> > I had the same problem this spring Hector. My kiwi's lateral shoots
> > developed early, then were frost bitten and lost.    Only a few
> > regenerated later in the spring and did not flower.
> >
> > Betsy Hilborn
> > 7a NC
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Hector Black" <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>
> > To: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher@carolina.rr.com>, "North American
> >             Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: 09/23/2010 03:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > Sent by: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> >
> > It took me 8 years to get fruit.  I didn't realize that the new growth
> > in
> > spring is as tender as tomato.  It contains the flower buds.  If you
> > cover
> > them  if they sprout before a last frost, they could make it though..
> > Well
> > worth the trouble.  We pick them hard and let them ripen at room temp.
> > or
> > keep them for a week or two in the frig. to slow ripening, bring out
> > when
> > you want them to ripen.  They're getting quite popular at the local
> > farmer's
> > market.    Hector black, zone 6 middle TN
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher@carolina.rr.com>
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> >
> >
> >
> > > I hope I don't have to wait that long.....I planted my male and female
> > this
> >
> > > past fall.
> > >
> > > P
> > > Z-7b US
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:46 PM
> > > Subject: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Am now getting the first batch of hardy kiwis from some a. arguta
> > vines
> >
> > > > I planted almost 20 years ago & finally found a male (Meader) to
> > > > pollinate it.  They are twice the size of the a. kolomikta fruits &
> > have
> >
> > > > very strong hints of pineapple.  Skins are tougher & more present
> > than
> >
> > > > the kolomikta as well.  Virtually impossible to tell if they are
> > ripe by
> >
> > > > sight, have to squeeze each one.  These unpruned fines are  grown up
> > a
> >
> > > > few ash trees & I see some fruit up to 30 - 40 feet up.
> > > >
> > > > ~mIEKAL
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:46:09 -0700
> > From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
> > To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] seaberry processing
> > Message-ID: <006101cb5b68$bcd28230$36778690$@org>
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> > Why wouldn't you thaw them and use a standard juicer, like a Breville?
> >
> >
> > ~ Stephen
> >
> >
> > From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:06 PM
> > To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] seaberry processing
> >
> >
> > I use one of those Finnish steam juicers...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Lee Reich wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anybody have any tips on getting the juice out of frozen seaberries? 
> > I
> > cut the branches with ripe berries into small enough pieces to fit into a
> > covered plastic tub, put it in the freezer, and then shook it vigorously
> > before the berries defrosted. I now have a couple of quarts of berries
> > cleaned of most leaves, stems, and other debris.
> >
> >
> > Lee Reich, PhD
> >
> > http://www.leereich.com/
> >
> > http://leereich.com/blog.html.
> >
> >
> > Books by Lee Reich:
> >
> > A Northeast Gardener's Year
> >
> > The Pruning Book
> >
> > Weedless Gardening
> >
> > Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> >
> > Landscaping with Fruit
> >
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:27:28 +0000
> > From: Richard MURPHY <murphman108@msn.com>
> > To: nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: [NAFEX] air layering
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> >
> > Hi Guys;
> >  Just another failure report.
> >  I tried Air Layering on Wolf River apple and Smoky Saskatoon.
> > Both failed miserably. 2 branches each.
> > Is there a list of plants that respond well to Air Layering?
> >  Murph
> >  PS      Making new plants of Saskatoons from root cuttings is a piece of 
> > cake!
> >           Saskatoons from seed are easy, too.
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:00:29 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>
> > To: Pat Armstrong <rancher@carolina.rr.com>, North American Fruit
> > Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > Message-ID: <923046.49010.qm@web110002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> > I dug out my biggest one I have this spring.? Had it for 10 years and it 
> > only occasionally flowered.? The male I have of the same age has never 
> > flowered.
> >
> > However, I have the variety Issai that flowers and produces fruit every 
> > year.? It is self fertile, but some years drops all the fruit before it 
> > matures.? It is far less vigorous than the other ones I have.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Pat Armstrong <rancher@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Pat Armstrong <rancher@carolina.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 2:47 PM
> >
> > I hope I don't have to wait that long.....I planted my male and female 
> > this past fall.
> >
> > P
> > Z-7b US
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:46 PM
> > Subject: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> >
> >
> >
> > > Am now getting the first batch of hardy kiwis from some a. arguta? vines 
> > > I planted almost 20 years ago & finally found a male (Meader) to? 
> > > pollinate it.? They are twice the size of the a. kolomikta fruits &? 
> > > have very strong hints of pineapple.? Skins are tougher & more present? 
> > > than the kolomikta as well.? Virtually impossible to tell if they are? 
> > > ripe by sight, have to squeeze each one.? These unpruned fines are? 
> > > grown up a few ash trees & I see some fruit up to 30 - 40 feet up.
> > >
> > > ~mIEKAL
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:37:38 -0500
> > From: mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
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> > Pat, it's all about getting a male/female match...  the first 3 males I 
> > had
> > didn't work so that chewed up 12-15 years of waiting..  the meader male
> > flowered in 3 years (not a lot) but I think by next year it'll really 
> > start
> > putting out.
> >
> > ~mIEKAL
> >
> > Issai hasn't made it in Zone 4b for me...  I'd love to make that one 
> > work.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:00 PM, John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I dug out my biggest one I have this spring.  Had it for 10 years and it
> > > only occasionally flowered.  The male I have of the same age has never
> > > flowered.
> > >
> > > However, I have the variety Issai that flowers and produces fruit every
> > > year.  It is self fertile, but some years drops all the fruit before it
> > > matures.  It is far less vigorous than the other ones I have.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Thu, 9/23/10, Pat Armstrong <rancher@carolina.rr.com>* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Pat Armstrong <rancher@carolina.rr.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] tastes like pineapple
> > > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 2:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope I don't have to wait that long.....I planted my male and female 
> > > this
> > > past fall.
> > >
> > > P
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:10:12 EDT
> > From: Jwlehman@aol.com
> > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Cc: nutgrowers@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [NAFEX] Off topic, Oyster Mushroom
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> > Can anyone verify this is the eatable Oyster Mushroom?  We had a rain 
> > about three weeks ago and this came up on a dead maple tree. The large 
> > one is better than 12 inches across.
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> >  It seems to still be growing and the flesh is tender.
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