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  • From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
  • To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] supertasters?
  • Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:22:17 -0700

Alas, if only it worked for bitter.  It’s acids that it makes taste sweet.  I knew that, but tried grapefruit after miracle berry just in case.  It was as bitter as before.  I went back to drinking my lemon juice and sparkling water.

 

~ Stephen

 

 

 

From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Moore
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:47 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] supertasters?

 

I've heard of supertasters before, but not about the intolerance of bitterness. Sounds like those people should all be growing miracle fruit.

 


From: Kieran &/or Donna <holycow@frontiernet.net>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:53:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] supertasters?

Let me clarify some things, or perhaps muddy the waters, depending on how
you look at it.  Supposedly what supertasters have is 2X as many taste buds
as normal people.  You can actually count the taste buds in a small area,
the size of a paper punch hole, and wherever I read this years ago, the
author told you what was "normal" and what was "supertaster".  Supertasters
find bitter foods too bitter, and can only deal with them, if at all, by
eating them with fat so the bitterness mostly doesn't actually contact the
tongue. (think cream sauce, which is how I like chicory.  I'm not a
supertaster, it's just bitter.)  For supertasters, fats create moe of a
sensation on the tongue.  I first heard about all this from a native
Tennessean who'd grown up in a family that loved turnip greens.  While the
rest of the family raved over them, they tasted bitter to her each and every
time she was made to eat them.  She finally figured out what was wrong when
she heard about supertasters.
    Bitterness in veggies depends on how well they are grown, and how long
and how well or badly they have been stored.  In general, fresh picked
veggies are sweet, especially if grown on good soil with sufficient sunshine
to make good brix levels.  Right now we've had 2 weeks of almost continuous
clouds, and the brix levels on everything in the garden are so low that
tomato plants are succumbing to late blight, squashes to mildew, and even
the weeds have yellow spots from diseases.  The last of the tomatoes have
nothing to recommend them.  They lack flavor and sugar. No aphids though.  I
must repeat that to myself to deal with the gloom, no aphids.  We have had
so many dry autumns in which I could hardly get any fall greens up.  I kept
trying to grow daikon and the aphids would just suck it dry.  Turnip plants
would also be covered in a sort of downy layer of aphids.  The fungus
disease that normally keeps aphids in check cannot grow in hot dry weather.
    It's important to keep in mind that food is also medicine, whether we
intend it to be or not.  Limonene in lemon, orange, and tangerine peels
speeds up liver detoxification, as do sulfur containing vegetables.  I just
found out that the sulfur in brassicas and onions and garlic actually helps
rebuild glutathione.  Apparently it is my glutathione system that is my
weakness in this modern chemical ridden world.  I have been aware for years
that my body really likes anything with sulfur in it.  (know of any fruits
with a lot of sulfur?  I should grow them)  DMSO smells just fine to me.
Skunk smells ok, after the outdoor only dog has had about 5 minutes to
offgas the worst of it.  You might think I just have a terrible sense of
smell, except I cannot bear anything with cheap perfume in it, even in
minute quantities. I have never been tremendously fond of grapefruit,
probably because it slows down liver detox.  For a person with rapid Phase 1
detox and slow phase 2, ("toxic detoxifiers" who actually make toxins more
toxic) limonene would probably be bad and grapefruit might be good.
Limonene speeds up some phase 2 routes, but I think grapefruit slows down
just about all liver detox.  in general, when it comes to choosing real
food, best let your cravings be your guide.  Processed foods don't count,
they are designed to bypass your body's good sense.  Mind you, salt cravings
are real and indicate sodium losses due to either sweating or stress.  A
friend says she puts salt on almost any fruit she eats, which implies low
adrenals.      Donna

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