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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....
- From: Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com>
- To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....
- Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
I'm aware that other changes occur along with global warming that threaten many forms of life. I must take issue however with the assumption that a reduction in carbon emissions means reducing either our standard of living, or our population. As I'm sure you are aware, increasing standards of living go hand in hand with declining populations. (Chicken and egg thing.) We have many viable options for eliminating fossil carbon emissions while increasing our standard of living manyfold. The simple fact that we would not be shipping $70 billion a year in American treasure to oil rich nations that fund terrorist operations in the middle east would immediately increase our overall prosperity.
From: John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 2:39:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....
Kevin, You may find it interesting to seek out a recent Scientific American article linking massive species die-out events to unusually high levels of carbon dioxide. IF I recall correctly, the carbon dioxide levels encourage massive shifts in the algal/bacterial populations favoring ones that release sulfur dioxide in extreme amounts, which is toxic to much of the life on the planet. The article sites locations and current events where this has happened on a smaller scale in recent years. For me, the issue is not how much gas our cars use or anything like that. It is that population has been growing unchecked. We all work with bio systems in some way and should have first hand experience with out of control populations and what happens as a result.. It is impossible to deal with the carbon issue without reducing our standards of living OR reducing our population. I do not think either of these problems is solvable under current conditions. ...And, I think this issue has everything to do with science. John PS Fluffy, we too love your posts. We are just asking that you don't 'hit' us when visiting the sandbox we play in... --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
Ernest Plutko, 06/03/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science...., Kevin Moore, 06/05/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
John S, 06/05/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
Kevin Moore, 06/06/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] comments on the trend of global warming on this list, Hélène Dessureault, 06/06/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
Kevin Moore, 06/06/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
Sheridan Shumway, 06/05/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingtodo with science...., S & E Hills, 06/06/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science....,
John S, 06/06/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] global warming........an observation that has nothingto do with science...., Kevin Moore, 06/06/2009
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