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["Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu" <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>]

Melissa, 
I never got the idea from this thread that inflicting
pain on young children was the intent in installing
an electric fence for deer/pest exclusion.  Certainly
not mine.

For some reason, some people seem to think that young
children can't learn things, but from a very young
age - like 2 - my kids learned and KNEW to stay away
from the electric fence(and I don't think all 4 of
them had a personal encounter with it), where to go
to be safe and out of the way when we're working with
the cows, to immediately go to a safe, VISIBLE
location whenever they hear the tractor, and perhaps
most importantly - to STOP when we shout STOP!
You have to teach these important survival skills
early on, if you're in a rural/farm setting; life may
depend on it.  I guess the importance of these
lessons has largely been lost to the urban populace.

Lucky  



------- Original Message -------
>From    : Melissa Kacalanos[mailto:mijwiz@yahoo.com]
Sent    : 5/12/2009 5:34:06 PM
To      : nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: Re: [NAFEX] Neighbors

 Priorities. I realize this is a fruit group, but
really, inflicting "significant" pain on children too
young to read is rather a high price to pay for
fruit, isn't it? Assurances that it's not enough
electricity to actually kill people are missing the
point.

Melissa

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Lucky Pittman
<lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu> wrote:

From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Neighbors
To: "North American Fruit Explorers"
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:00 PM

At 04:37 PM 5/12/2009, Melissa wrote:
>Come on, this is a neighborhood, with kids in it,
not farmland. If 
>there isn't a local ordinance against
 electric fences, there should be.

Melissa,
A properly-constructed and energized electric fence
is not an 
electrocution hazard - but done correctly, the 'pain
potential' is 
significant, and may be the most effective deterrent
to wildlife 
depredation on your garden/orchard.
Certainly in a residential setting, it would be
advisable/necessary 
to attach those "Warning! Electric Fence!" placards
to warn kids or 
unsuspecting 'townies' that if they touch or try to
climb through the 
fence that they're at risk of receiving a substantial
shock.   I 
guarantee you it would be a lesson quickly learned,
but not dangerous 
in the least.

Lucky