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["S & E Hills" <ehills7408@wowway.com>]

 

I wanted to add an american persimmon (well actually I’ve just come to the conclusion that I wanted to add one) and at this point all (well all nurseries I regularily check) are sold out of the varieties I was interested in (til fall)

 

Any worries about fall planting of american persimmons?  I know they’re hardier than Kaki varieties, but I was just thinking I should ask someone with some experience.

 

Thanks

 

Scott Hills

Zone 6b Michigan

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jwlehman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:53 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] re pecans and persimmons

 

In a message dated 3/25/2009 2:22:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu writes:

At 12:58 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>I've heard that persimmons are very difficult to move successfully,
>but have nothing to lose in trying since they are in a place where
>they are not wanted.

Scott,
I've moved dormant persimmons - both in fall and late winter/early
spring - and can't really tell that one is better or worse than another.
I'm getting to the point that I much prefer to graft onto established
seedlings, started from seed or nut where I want them growing rather
than dedicating a couple of years growing the rootstock in nursery
beds, grafting &growing them out for another year or two, and then
losing the graft due to the fact that I'm probably not going to be
coming back and doing anything in the way of aftercare - I just don't
have time.

Lucky

Scott,

My experience matches Lucky's. I like late fall transplanting as they are dormant and don't need watering, Just pulverize the soil and place back in the hole. Winter rains take care of watering. Might be a good idea to mulch over it as frost goes deeper in loose soil and could damage roots. It is then ready to begin early spring root growth. 

I totally agree, it is best to plant the seeds where the final resting place is to be then graft if place. For one thing then transplanting a seedling if the root system is damaged and the laterals aren't well spaced around the tree, it may never be, leaving a weak area where it can blow over in a few years. Also if a grafted hard wood (and persimmon is a hard wood) tree comers under stress due to lack of moisture (watering) they will abort the graft. Grafting in place eliminates this danger. My apologizes to my many friends in the nursery business.

Order fall shipping. :-)

Jerry 


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