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[Scott Breneman <sbreneman@yourgoodwill.org>]

Ok, probably is just a deep shade problem with the grass not growing under 
the pecan and/or competition for water/nutrients.

I've heard that persimmons are very difficult to move successfully, but have 
nothing to lose in trying since they are in a place where they are not 
wanted. 

Thanks,

Scott


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Today's Topics:

   1. daffodils around trees (Melissa Kacalanos)
   2. Re: daffodils around trees (Ginda Fisher)
   3. Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders (Geoffrey Stone)
   4. Re: Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders (Lucky Pittman)
   5. Re: Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders (Dr.O'Barr)
   6. Re: daffodils around trees (Kevin Moore)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Kacalanos <mijwiz@yahoo.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] daffodils around trees
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Planting a ring of Dafs around the base of fruit trees is an old permaculture 
trick to keep mice and other varmints from chewing on the bark in winter.

That sounds interesting. Is there any research to back this up? I'm having 
trouble imagining how daffodils could do anything in winter, when their 
leaves are long gone.

For those who do this, how far from the trunk should the ring be?

Melissa

       
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 7:46:43 -0500
From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] daffodils around trees
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Daffodils spread their roots in the late fall.  If their roots are as bitter 
and toxic as the bulbs, I suppose that might discourage burrowing critters in 
general.
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Ginda

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Melissa Kacalanos <mijwiz@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
>Planting a ring of Dafs around the base of fruit trees is an old
permaculture trick to keep mice and other varmints from chewing on the bark 
in winter.
>
>That sounds interesting. Is there any research to back this up? I'm 
>having
trouble imagining how daffodils could do anything in winter, when their 
leaves are long gone.
>
>For those who do this, how far from the trunk should the ring be?
>
>Melissa
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:28:01 -0400
From: "Geoffrey Stone" <gfstone@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [NAFEX] Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders
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Hi,
    I'm a newbie. I am involved in planting a mixed fruit/nut orchard, have 
access to an old orchard, and am attempting to care/prune existing neglected 
trees. I am ready to invest in a good orchard ladder. What should I look for? 
What to avoid? Brands? Sources in my area (WNC)? What is the going price per 
foot? What height (if only one ladder)? What 2nd choice if I feel the need 
for a second?
Thanks,
Geoffrey Stone
Black Mountain, NC
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:22:18 -0500
From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders
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Geoffrey,
This topic has come up here before, and several folks have touted the Tallman 
orchard ladders as a primo product - http://www.tallmanladders.com/ I've not 
priced an orchard ladder in several years, and while they're probably fairly 
pricey, the cost probably pales in comparison to what a trip to the local 
emergency room or orthopedist would set you back, if you took a tumble off of 
a typical stepladder, or out of the tree.
There may be other manufacturers of similar products; I'll be interested to 
see additional responses/reviews.


Lucky Pittman
USDA Cold Zone 6
AHS Heat Zone 7
Hopkinsville, KY 



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:57:47 -0500
From: "Dr.O'Barr" <Topgun@Otelco.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Seeking Advise - Orchard Ladders
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Gedoffrey:

My staff and I used the 3 legged ladder for several years without incident 
and we liked them.

Topgun
Zone 7
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  Hi,
      I'm a newbie. I am involved in planting a mixed fruit/nut orchard, have 
access to an old orchard, and am attempting to care/prune existing neglected 
trees. I am ready to invest in a good orchard ladder. What should I look for? 
What to avoid? Brands? Sources in my area (WNC)? What is the going price per 
foot? What height (if only one ladder)? What 2nd choice if I feel the need 
for a second?
  Thanks,
  Geoffrey Stone
  Black Mountain, NC



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I think the reasoning is that the bulbs are toxic, and the mice will avoid 
them. Perhaps they hide the scent of the tree? I would plant a solid ring 
about 2-3 inches from the trunk. They should reproduce at least as fast as 
the tree grows, keeping a perpetual ring around the tree.




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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:16:12 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] daffodils around trees


Planting a ring of Dafs around the base of fruit trees is an old permaculture 
trick to keep mice and other varmints from chewing on the bark in winter.That 
sounds interesting. Is there any research to back this up? I'm having trouble 
imagining how daffodils could do anything in winter, when their leaves are 
long gone.

For those who do this, how far from the trunk should the ring be?

Melissa



      
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