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  • From: Hank Burchard <hank@burchard.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] lead shot
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:56:29 -0500

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:51:38 -0800
From: "Richard MURPHY" <murphman108@msn.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] .22 lead ammo advice
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Certainly, lead is toxic. The amount of lead that will leach into the soil is
based on simple mechanics (ignoring chemistry here). The lead we find in
paint and other concoctions is extremely fine. It has an enormous surface to
mass ratio. Sometimes, a gram of powdered metal can have a surface area of
one square meter ! The surface area of a .22 cal bullet, I should imagine is
less than a square centimeter. Therefore, the occasional bullet or pellet
into the dirt should be well tolerated.
Bird Shot (shotgun pellets of small diameter) is another matter. Lots of
tiny pellets, usually landing in water, are a problem. Each shot launches far
more lead than a .22, with much more surface area. Add that to the fact that
Duck Hunters usually have there favorite spot, it is not unreasonable to
believe that lead could be a huge problem to wetlands.

I would not hesitate to use lead .22 ammo for crop protection varmint
control. If you're rather close to the neighbors, use hollow point ammo as it
is less likely to pass through it's target. Also I don't know of a source for
FMJ .22 ammo.

Murph




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:00:44 -0600
From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] .22 lead ammo advice
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Murph, I thought the concern about using lead shot in wetlands was not to the
environment, but that the ducks were eating the lead pellets.

FYI-With regard to lead in the soil. I'm not a lead proponent and I'm glad
they took lead out of paint and gasoline, but lead is not taken up well by
plants. The concern mainly is children eating the soil directly, or eating
plants with soil lead dust on them. The government recommends no more than
300 ppm lead in soil. Assuming a foot acre of soil weighs 4 million pounds,
that computes to 1200 lbs. of lead per foot acre of soil. Soils vary as to
how much lead naturally occurs. I've read 15-40ppm. At 40ppm, that's 160
lbs. of naturally occurring lead per acre. To get over the government
allowance, you'd have to add 1060 lbs. of lead. That's a lot of 22 rounds.

Mark
KS
Poisoning of waterfowl by eating lead shot -- which is ground up in their gizzards and heavily absorbed -- led to the banning of lead shot for hunting in wetlands. The ban took effect about 20 years ago, and has essentially eliminated the problem. Sometimes the government gets it right.

Hank Burchard
Pecker Wood Farm
Amherst VA 7b




  • Re: [NAFEX] lead shot, Hank Burchard, 11/17/2008

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