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["S & E Hills" <ehills7408@wowway.com>]

I can report that S. Nigrum does come back from the same roots here in zone
6.  I have a couple that I have been pulling or killing for a couple years
now, and know they're the same one because I can never get the bottom of the
stem out of the cracks in the concrete in which it is growing.  A neighbor
of mine has a variegated one that has returned year after year on his fence
as well.

Scott Hills

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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Brungardt, Sam
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:19 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Poisonous Garden Huckleberry?

Donna, I don't believe that black nightshade (S. nigrum) has perennial
roots.  Wherever I've seen it growing in temperate zones, the plants
have been killed by winter temps. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.

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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Donna &/or Kieran
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:48 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Poisonous Garden Huckleberry?


An interesting thing about black nightshade is that it appears to come
up 
from a perennial root.  Another member of the family, horse or Carolina 
nettle, does the same.  That one is where they got scopalomine, used for

"twilight sleep."  This drug was used on women in labor, while it does 
nothing to reduce pain, it causes amnesia afterward so the person can't 
remember it.  Strange, eh?   Not necessarily the best sort of high for
high 
school kids either.  And jimson weed, THAT's the one that most often
gets 
used by rural kids.  It's not good for you.  Occasional deaths.  I think

it's the arthritis in cattle from eating jimson weed that led to the 
no-solanine diet for arthritis.  At least in some people, solanine can 
convert stored vitamin D to the active form, causing overgrowth at the
ends 
of the bones.  Copper prevents this, hence the copper bracelet for 
arthritis.  In all my years as a massage therapist I have seen a few
people 
wearing copper bracelets, but the one person I have met who absolutely 
swears by his is a roofer.  He gets LOTS of vitamin D.  There is a
"Marshall 
Protocol" for lupus, sarcoidosis and possibly other autoimmune diseases 
based on the notion that some micro organisms can do the same thing to 
vitamin D, enabling them to enter the white blood cells and cause
trouble. 
The first thing they do on this protocol is eliminate all sources of
vitamin 
D, including sunshine exposure.  They wait till infected WBC's have had
time 
to die (about 4 months) and then take low doses of antibiotics to kill
the 
rest.  It's the only thing they have found that works on sarcoidosis.
And 
on top of this, a friend who worked in an immunology lab told me that
they 
knew there were some people who were immune to AIDS.  What they had in 
common was a mutation to do with vitamin D receptors.  Food for
thought..... 
Donna 

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