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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

This thread of clove currents has been very
interesting, but am I the only one that sems to have
disease problems with them? Most of the ones I have
planted have these warty growths that burst the stem
(almost like rust) and eventually with kill the plant
within 2 years.

I thought about looking in to it and trying again, but
untill know I was wondering it it was worth the
effort.

Robert

--- "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com> wrote:

> You'd have to look up the botany of them.  I do know
> that I have a 
> golden currant and the leaves are noticeably
> different, and the plants 
> rarely set more than a very few fruits.  The
> Crandall was far better 
> suited to my area.
> -Lon Rombough
> Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape
> Grower, at 
> http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden
> Writers Association 
> "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Mark and Piper wrote:
> 
> Lon,
> Both Ribes odoratum and Ribes aureum have a listed
> variety called 
> golden currant. Are these two different things? The
> one I know as 
> golden currant was growing wild in the mountains
> east of Boise.
> -Mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lon J. Rombough
> > To: North American Fruit Explorers
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ribes odoratum (Clove or
> Buffalo Currant)
> >
> > I got Crandall in the 1960's and grew it for many
> years by itself and 
> > got full crops with no other currants around. I
> took stock of that 
> > plant to Weeks' Berry Nursery in Salem, Oregon
> about 1980 and they 
> > have been selling it for quite some time. They are
> wholesale only, so 
> > you would have to find a garden center that would
> buy from them. They 
> > have a website.
> > I don't have it any more as I remove the row for a
> building and the 
> > transplanted plants died due to a mishap.
> > -Lon Rombough
> > Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape
> Grower, at 
> > http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden
> Writers Association 
> > "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> > On Jan 3, 2007, at 3:48 PM, William C. Garthright
> wrote:
> >
> > I appreciate all the comments about these native
> black currants (I've
> > also seen them listed as Ribes aureum, var.
> 'Crandall'), but there are
> > two things I wasn't able to determine last year
> (before I joined the
> > NAFEX list). I planted some of these anyway, but
> could I get some help
> > on these questions, please?
> >
> > 1. For best fruit production, do you prune them
> like other Ribes
> > (remove three year and older stems)?
> >
> > 2. I received nothing but conflicting information
> about these plants.
> > Several nurseries told me that the 'Crandall'
> variety of /Ribes
> > odoratum/ (clove currant, buffalo currant, golden
> currant, etc.) would
> > set fruit with just one plant. But the Missouri
> Botanical Garden says
> > Ribes odoratum is dioecious, requiring both a male
> and a female plant 
> > to
> > set fruit. Apparently, this comes from the
> reference work, "A Manual of
> > Woody Landscape Plants" by Michael A. Dirr.
> >
> > Does anyone here know for sure? Have you seen
> separate male and female
> > plants? Or perhaps it's dioecious, but the female
> plants will still set
> > "some" fruit without a male?
> >
> > At least one nursery told me that
> "cross-pollination" would increase
> > fruit production, and that a Ribes nigrum type of
> black currant would
> > work for that (and maybe other Ribes species?). If
> that's true,
> > I suppose all these nurseries could be seeing
> fruit from Ribes odoratum
> > because they have other Ribes planted nearby...
> >
> > I ended up buying from two different nurseries,
> but I was totally
> > confused by then. So I planted 6 of the 'Crandall'
> currants and one
> > seedling clove currant, just in case. But, of
> course, I don't know if
> > the seedling currant is male or female, or even if
> they really ARE
> > dioecious. Anyone know for sure?
> >
> > Thanks much,
> >
> > Bill
> >
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