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["Mark or Helen Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>]

Hi Charlie,

I don't think anyone has suggested paw paw.  You may be aware they are noted
as an understory tree, in fact young trees are so sensitive to UV light,
shading is recommended for the first couple of years.   I don't know how
much room you have under the pines, nor if the soil would be correct, but it
may be one to consider.  I've seen wild paw paw on the Missouri side and
they don't seem to grow very tall under shade, so they may not need a lot of
room.

Mark Angermayer
Zone 5 Kansas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Charlie Paradise>
To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] what plant under red pines in part shade?


> Thanks for the suggestions from all of you.
>
> Refining my thoughts as follows:
> 1] There's an unfruitful wild grape volunteer going up one of the red
pines.
> BIG.  I have had a domestic vine growing at the base of the other with
little
> growth.  I'm thinking of moving it further away from the base of the tree
[its
> now close to the base of the tree] and stringing it up to the first
branches
> of the red pine to offer it a means of climb, thinking the domestic one is
> discouraged by its close proximity to the base.  Good idea?
> 2]  I do have several mulberries.  These are normally considered trees, I
> don't know how they'd react by being kept shorter as understory to the
red.  Any
> chance they'd fruit in the half-sun and being cut back?
> 3]  I have an Ornablue blueberry I propagated I could move out to be in
the
> dripline of the reds.  Does anyone think Ornablue can produce in less than
full
> sun?
> 4]  I suppose all brambles spread like crazy?  I'm a little reluctant to
> plant any bramble because we still have a few hangover FallGold planted in
about
> 1972 that became unproductive in about 1980.   I suppose they could be
> smothered out, but I'm afraid to start with anything.  Should I be afraid
of plating
> in some brambles?
> Thanks,
> Charlie Paradise in Massachusetts
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