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["Bassem Samaan" <bassem@gardener.com>]

The one plant that fruits successfully for me under a tree, in almost full shade is Wineberry (Rubus phoenicolasius). I have a bush that grows wild, I prefer the flavor of wineberry over raspberry sometimes. I've never seen any known cultivars of wineberries, but they do grow wild in the northeast.

Bassem Samaan

zone 6, Bethlehem, pa

----- Original Message -----
From: "ethan roland"
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] what plant under red pines in part shade?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:55:25 -0500


Charlie -

Sounds like you've got some good ideas for the site already! To choose
the specific plants that best match your conditions, I'd suggest
taking a look at Dave Jacke + Eric Toensmeier's Edible Forest Gardens
Volume 2. It has an extensive and excellent appendices listing over
600 useful/functional plant species -- including specific information
on growing conditions, site prep, and more.
www.edibleforestgardens.com is a good place to start.

The questions I would ask are:
- What's the soil like?
- how dry is the area?
- how close is the sport to your house?
- what exactly do you want out of the space? if you just want low
maintenance, then the species selection will be very different than if
you want some fruit or medicinal herbs.

Good luck!

In Peace
Ethan



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> Under two red pines, in the front of the house, unwanted seedlings appear of
> winged euonymous, prunus serotina, and especially maples.
>
> It's a pain pulling the little seedlings. Even more frustrating is nothing
> useful is growing in space that's obviously fertile and sunny enough to
> encourage the growth of these seedlings, rather rapid growth I
> might add. I tried
> Sparkle variety strawberries and they survive but do not thrive.
>
> So I'm looking for suggestions what might be tried there to get some use out
> of the space. Gobo Burdock? Soloman's Seal? American ginseng? I tried
> onions with no result too. Eleagnus Umbellata [Autumn Olive]? Some herb?
> Witch-hazel? Garlic? Beach Plum [Prunus maritima}?
> Raspberries? Somebody come
> up with something, please!
> Charlie Paradise, Massachusetts USA
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