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  • From: "TIM INMAN" <TIM@HISTORICINTERIORS.COM>
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  • Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:37:11 -0500

I paint the sticky wax directly on the tree bark. Don't see why you couldn't wrap paper or fabric first if you wanted to keep the tree cleaner. After all, it IS a sticky mess, but it is so effective. For cherries, my Dad wires in roosting sticks in strategically attractive places high in his tree, dressed abundantly with the waxy stuff just before the cherries become attractive to the birds. Again, once they land on those sticky perches, they go away and don't come back for the duration of the harvest.

Tim Inman
Randolph, IA 51649 Zone 4
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Selling pawpaws (Charles Rhora)
2. Re: Trees in city (Lon J. Rombough)
3. Re: Moving apple trees (Ed Fackler)
4. Re: First Buartnut crop (Lucky Pittman)
5. Pawpaw Crop (nottke1)
6. 'Tree Tanglefoot' sticky wax for squirrels (athagan@atlantic.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:12:03 -0400
From: Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Selling pawpaws
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Our crop of paw paw is one of the best I have seen.
Expect to be able to sell bushels of them to local restaurants
for their customers enjoyment for deserts.

Charles Rhora,
Climatic Zone 4 Canada
http://www.nuttrees.com





At 11:28 AM 25/09/2006, you wrote:

>Hal Love wrote:
>
> > Our pawpaw crop is probably the worst ever.
>This year, I have seen one single fruit among hundreds of trees
>along our road.

Same here. I've yet to see a single fruit on any A.triloba anywhere
in the county.
Little grafted A.parviflora in the orchard had its typical good crop,
but none on any of the 'wild' pawpaws anywhere I've looked.

Lucky Pittman
USDA Cold Zone 6
AHS Heat Zone 7
Hopkinsville, KY

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:47:59 -0700
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Trees in city
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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At one time, the streets of Salem, Oregon were lined with English
Walnut trees. As a child I often gathered buckets of them to dry so
that we could send them to eastern relatives who had none. On October
12, 1962 a freak hurricane took out virtually all the trees, and in 44
years none have been replanted. No one knows what to do with them, or
even cares.
It's sad, but fruit or nuts as street trees are ignored by the public.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:58 PM, John McCuan wrote:


A number of years ago I was in Leipzig, Germany (in the former East
Germany).? Along one street some huge trees (18-24 inches in diameter)
were dropping little red drupes all over the sidewalk, street, etc.??
Initially I didn't know what they were, but ventured a taste and they
were delicious!? I at last guessed they were mulberries.

Unfortunately, the trees were so tall it was impossible to pick the
fruit without a tall ladder, and since the dropped fruit fell on the
sidewalks and streets it got trodden under feet and wheels.? I never
saw anyone pick any.

Right now, however, the region is fairly prosperous, and people can
buy food at the market.? During the socialist regime, however, food was
in shorter supply and I expect the mulberries were consumed then.?
There is a long tradition of urban gardens in Germany (Scheber gardens)
and under the GDR those gardens were a significant source of fresh
vegetables for urban dwellers.

Also, during WW II England relied heavily on rose hips as a source of
Vitamin C.? Urban landscapers (and suburban, too)? could view fruit
plantings as a sort of "insurance policy" for a source of nutrients in
case shortages did arise, though of course it would be best if the
fruit were continually appreciated and consumed.

Melinda McCuan

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:49:57 -0500
From: "Ed Fackler" <ed.fackler@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Moving apple trees
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Paul:

You can successfully transplant those trees in your area anytime after
around Oct. 15-20.
ed


On 9/25/06, Paul Cabe <CabeP@wlu.edu> wrote:

I have decided I must move about 6 young apple trees. They were planted
last spring, and some the spring before. Most are on semi-dwarf rootstocks
(Geneva 11 and 16).

I'd appreciate advice on logistics - when is the best time to do this?
Any other specific advice?

thanks,
Paul
Zone 6, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia



Paul R. Cabe, PhD
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:51:57 -0500
From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] First Buartnut crop
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At 04:23 PM 9/24/2006, you wrote:
After 12 years I have my first buartnut crop, maybe 3-4 bushel from 3
trees that are cropping. These are seedling buartnuts from Bear
Creek & based on the huge variety of shapes & sizes of the nuts, I
would say these are in pretty early stages of selection. Or will
there always be a huge variation with the nuts? I'm also wondering
if the fact that I have black walnuts in the area effects the shape
nuts or would that only express itself in the following generation?
Miekal,
I would expect all nuts from a single tree to have similar shape,
though size could be variable.
Generally black walnut and the butternut/heartnut/Japanese walnut
group don't bloom close enough to concurrently for cross-pollenation
to happen readily, and even if it did, I wouldn't anticipate any
difference in the nuts - only in those produced by resulting seedlings.

Lucky




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: nottke1 <nottke1@earthlink.net>
Subject: [NAFEX] Pawpaw Crop
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Our pawpaw crop was above average in both quantity and quality. I have ten closely spaced trees in production now, each with different ancestry. Will pick the last ones this week.

Jim Nottke
NC Zone 7




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:17:54 -0400
From: athagan@atlantic.net
Subject: [NAFEX] 'Tree Tanglefoot' sticky wax for squirrels
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Tim,

Do you put the sticky wax directly on the tree bark or on something
like paper then wrap that around the tree? This might be the thing
for keeping the bushy tailed rodents out of my pomegranate tree.

.....Alan.

Quoting TIM INMAN <TIM@HISTORICINTERIORS.COM>:

I hope I'm doing this correctly. I'm wanting to respond to message
2 about
squirrels.

I have had great results keeping squirrels out of my peach trees by
using
common 'Tree Tanglefoot' sticky wax. When the peaches begin to
turn color -
which is exactly when my squirrels begin to get interested - I go
on the
attack with sticky wax. I paint it about 30 to 36 inches above
ground all
around the trunk and the first low branches. I go that high so
they won't
be able to just jump over it. My observation is that when they get
one paw
full of this sticky stuff, they immediately loose interest in going
any
farther with my peaches. Keeps 'em out for the duration of the
ripening
season for me. I suggested this to one of our local commercial
orchards and
they tell me it is working for them, too. I'm guessing that it
wouldn't be
necessary to treat every tree in the orchard if you have a lot of
trees. I
think it is nasty enough stuff that 'any' contact would be too much
contact
for them. I like it because it is completely harmless to the
animals. Just
nasty to deal with. Serves 'em right. I get peaches and they get
to clean
off their sticky little paws. Works on cherries, too.

Tim Inman
Randolph, Ia 51649 Zone 4

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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Selling pawpaws (mangodance)
> 2. Re: Squirrels (W3cmp@aol.com)
> 3. Re: Lingonberries (Brungardt, Sam)
> 4. Re: Selling pawpaws (Lucky Pittman)
> 5. Re: Squirrels & deer (mangodance)
> 6. Re: Squirrels & deer (Lucky Pittman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:42:22 -0400
> From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Selling pawpaws
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Hal Love wrote:
>
>> Our pawpaw crop is probably the worst ever. Wild pawpaws are
probably
>> the most common understory plant around here, and usually start
to drop
>> abundant fruit about this time each year. This year, I have seen
one
>> single fruit among hundreds of trees along our road. Usually,
the fruits
>> drop onto the pavement and splat, often covering sections of
road with
>> pawpaw mush. I noticed large numbers of flowers on the trees
this past
>> spring, so there must have been a problem with pollinators.
Anyone else
>> notice a lack of pawpaws?
>
> Pawpaws are notoriously poor pollinators. However, with a little
help
> from growers, they will bear in good numbers. Siting of plants
also
> will have an impact. Wild pawpaws are an understory tree and
typically
> will not fruit as well as those grown out in the sunlight (like
most
> orchard trees).
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:51:43 EDT
> From: W3cmp@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
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> Hello all:
> Squirrels are one of the biggest pains ever invented. I
fight a
> constant battle against them every year. Despite a resident hawk
who
> takes care of
> several every year, I end up using a have a heart trap to capture
them
> (peanut
> butter bait), and a bb gun to dispose of them. I put them down
nearby
> ground
> hog holes to try to encourage the resident groundhogs to
relocate,
> preferably
> away from t he woods that border my orchard. Squirrels can strip
a peach
> or
> apple tree in a couple days. They seem to prefer the peaches
after skin
> color
> changes but before the peaches are ripe. They like sweeter apple

> varieties
> like gala early in the apple ripening cycle, but will go after
just about
> anything.
> I originally tried to relocate the squirrels but was
cautioned against
> doing that-they can travel several miles back to their "home",
i.e., my
> orchard, and moving them just causes someone else a problem.
> I put groundhogs, possums, skunks and raccoons in the same
category as
> squirrels. It's a never ending battle to keep them from
butchering up
> fruit as
> well.
>
> Chris
Patterson Zone 6
> SE
> Pa.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:18:45 -0500
> From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Lingonberries
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Jim, I don't know any lingonberry growers, but I'll bet you could
find
> some if you contacted the folks at the Horticulture Dept. at the
Univ.
> of Wisconsin-Madison. Prof. Eldon Stang worked on this crop for
a
> number of years. He may be retired now, but there is probably
an
> extension fruit specialist who would know the growers in
Wisconsin and
> maybe Minnesota. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Fruth
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:59 AM
> To: NAFEX
> Subject: [NAFEX] Lingonberries
>
>
> Does anyone grow Lingonberries to sell or know of a business
that
> wholesales Lingonberry Jam?
>
> I tried growing them and failed. I'll try again but would
prefer if
> I could buy from someone else.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
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> www.bberryfarm.com
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> From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Selling pawpaws
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>>Hal Love wrote:
>>
>> > Our pawpaw crop is probably the worst ever.
>>This year, I have seen one single fruit among hundreds of trees
>>along our road.
>
> Same here. I've yet to see a single fruit on any A.triloba
anywhere
> in the county.
> Little grafted A.parviflora in the orchard had its typical good
crop,
> but none on any of the 'wild' pawpaws anywhere I've looked.
>
> Lucky Pittman
> USDA Cold Zone 6
> AHS Heat Zone 7
> Hopkinsville, KY
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:30:00 -0400
> From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels & deer
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> For those of you who cull them, but don't eat them, don't
overlook local
> wildlife rehab facilities that rehab hawks, eagles, owls, etc. A
friend
> once spent 3 months culling them from his orchard and freezing
them. A
> local rehabber was happy to get the feed.
>
> BTW, many rehabbers and sanctuaries also are in need of deer
meat.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:46:09 -0500
> From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels & deer
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20060925104404.031aefb8@murraystate.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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> At 10:30 AM 9/25/2006, Barry wrote:
>>For those of you who cull them, but don't eat them, don't
overlook local
>>wildlife rehab facilities that rehab hawks, eagles, owls, etc. A
friend
>>once spent 3 months culling them from his orchard and freezing
them. A
>>local rehabber was happy to get the feed.
>
> Good point.
> We ran a raptor rehab center here at the lab for years, and I
was
> always on the lookout for roadkill squirrels, rabbits, and even
small
> opossums, to be fed to the birds. Stopping to pick up roadkill
> critters mortified my kids even more than my leaf-hauling forays
> throughout the fall.
>
> Lucky
>
>
>
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