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  • From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmon grafting
  • Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:22:56 -0800

I've had low survival of American persimmon grafts on small diameter limbs. The only way they work well is to graft to a main scaffold limb. On any limb smaller than two inches in diameter, the trees seem to want to "prune" the graft and they die back to a larger limb and slough off after a few years. Two varieties per tree seems to be the most that work, long-term.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Lucky Pittman wrote:

At 10:46 PM 11/19/2005, Mark wrote:
I have had zero success with persimmons. I wonder if it has to do with my
rootstock. I have a persimmon seedling that is a full tree. I graft onto a
few branches and let the rest of the tree just grow normally. I don't try
to check the new growth on the rest of the tree. I can get away with this
on apples. Do I need to do things differently with persimmon grafts?

I'll defer to Jerry for the definitive answer, but like yourself, I've had
dismally poor results - if not total failure, in trying to foster grafts
onto branches of mature persimmons.
Even with young seedlings, I've had trouble keeping topworked grafts
growing well, if the rootstock has branches present below the graft. Did
manage it with one seedling in the orchard this year, but I had to
consistently - about twice a week - pinch out terminal buds or break over
new growth that kept sprouting out on the branches below the graft - and
I'll probably prune those limbs off whenever growth initiates this spring.
All in all, I prefer a rootstock with no branching, so that it's putting
all its energy into pushing growth on the grafted scion - and I'll say it
again - you've got to follow up; at least every couple of days, you've got
to rub off any new shoots pushing out on the scion - and you may have to
continue to do this for weeks.

LLP

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