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  • From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] The Case of the 'Poisonous' Pawpaw Cookies
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:42:31 -0400

It's very odd to get food poisoning from cookies. Everything has been cooked, and then it is both sweet and dry, which isn't terribly conducive to bacterial growth. Is there any chance you put the finished cookies on a contaminated surface? That would be my guess.

Ginda


On Jul 19, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Lucky Pittman wrote:

Wondered if anyone else has experienced anything like this?

On Sunday night, my daughter was cooking up a batch of chocolate chip
cookies to mail to our son who's off at college for the summer. I'd
defrosted the freezer on Saturday evening and had pulled out a container of
frozen pawpaw pulp, from fruits collected last fall, so while the oven was
hot, I decided to make a batch of pawpaw cookies.
Followed a recipe I got off one of the pawpaw sites on the Internet -
flour, butter, sugar, eggs, pawpaw pulp - and I put in a cup of chopped
hickory nuts. Was still too soupy to suit me, so I folded in a cup of
oats. Made at least a couple dozen cookies and a half-dozen muffins.
Baked 'em up, and, as was the case with the last batch I'd made several
years ago, they were OK, but had more of a cake/bread consistency than I
really care for in a cookie. Daughter liked them OK, but I didn't send any
of them on to the son. I ate one hot out of the oven, and had a couple for
breakfast the next morning(Monday).
Here's where the trouble starts - and if you're not into discussions of
bodily functions, perhaps you should hit the 'delete' button now.

Monday morning, I had some abdominal cramping, and a slight case of the big
'D'. That seemed to pass, and I made it through the day just
fine. Discussed the cookies with one of my co-workers, and she said,
"Well, if they're not going to eat 'em at home, bring 'em on in - we'll eat
anything!"
Had a pawpaw cookie for dessert after supper on Monday. Woke up on Tuesday
with strong abdominal cramps, and the worst case (sorry, folks) of diarrhea
I've had in 30 years. Got to feeling better after 2 or 3 hours - good
enough to come on in to work - and brought the cookies in with me, and left
them on the break table, where folks quickly started pilfering them.
Within an hour, people were becoming nauseous, and before we 'made the
connection', at least a dozen people were sick, with symptoms ranging from
nausea to vomiting to abdominal cramping and diarrhea. Called my daughter
at home, and yes, she'd had some GI distress after eating the cookies, but
hadn't mentioned it to anyone.

Retrieved the last few cookies and disposed of them, but it may be some
time before some of these folks eat anything else that I cook, especially
if it's something out of the ordinary - like made with persimmons,
mulberries, juneberries, etc. Looks like everyone will survive, but I bet
I'll have a hard time getting 'em to try C.mas or Che fruit in the future.
The toxicologist teased me about running an extract of my cookies through
the GC/MS instrument to see what toxin I'd dosed everyone with.
Maybe someone in the bioterrorism business would be interested in my recipe?

Has anyone else experienced gastrointestinal disturbances in themselves, or
other folks whom you've shared pawpaws with?

Lucky Pittman
USDA Cold Zone 6
AHS Heat Zone 7
Hopkinsville, KY

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