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  • From: "Sam Brungardt" <sam739is@hotmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1": Joe Brown
  • Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:54:15 -0500

Hi, Del. I was just curious: Are the Jan and Joy some true-to-name plants that you got from St. Lawrence Nurseries or Hartmann's?

Did you raise any plants from the seed I collected from my mother's plants in Kansas, and did you notice uniformity, or were they segregating as to display a range of phenotypes? How long do you think it will be before they will bloom? My experience w/ the stock I got from Mom is that I probably planted 2 -year-old grafted or budded stock and that they bloomed the second year after planting. I think you'll find the Jan and Joy series (P. japonica), Mongolian cherry (P. fruticosa), P. besseyi (sand cherry) and nanking cherry (P. tomentosa) well adapted to your climate but unfortunately their fruit will be smaller than that of the tree cherries, such as 'Evans'.

I wish I could be of more help to Mary, but she seems very resourceful and self-reliant; that she would take the time to read the documents I suggested is proof of that.

This weekend I'll dig up the plants I buried for the winter. I expect to have an Actinidia kolomikta male for you and at least one female. I have the male already, and have ordered three female plants that will be delivered this spring from the grower in Massachusetts.. I think this is the same species that you saw growing on the chicken coop and run at an elderly gentleman's place near you. I also have a Beta grape for you and I believe a Dolgo/Bud 9 tree that I grafted last year.


My Magnolia stellata s in full bloom, some of the minor bulbs, inclluding the species tulips are coming into bloom, and my Harglow apricot just began blooming today. Are you seeing signs of growth on the grafted apricot I gave you last fall or on the Harison's Yellow rose?

Also, are you seeing any encouraging results w/ any of your blackberry cultivars? I think my Illini Hardy plants came thru the winter in fine shape, but they are vicious plants and I yearn for something that's a less difficult to handle. Do you have any candidates? When I next see you and Mary, we'll enjoy a blackberry cobbler and some liqueur that I made last fall. I also have that sourdough starter for Mary; guaranteed to be sour. -- Sam



From: "del stubbs" <pinewoodel@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] "Sour Chari" and "CKVL#1": Joe Brown
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:13:34 +0000

The first of the jan, joy...series I have bloomed so profusely and beautifully that I am propagating some as ornamentals to go along our drive, hoping I will also find the fruit useful, Del


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The late Professor Elwyn Meader crossed two species of plums to get a fruit that looks and tastes like a pie cherry, but on a bush only 6 feet tall at maximum. The interesting part is that they ripen in August when all other cherries are gone and the birds usually ignore them because at that time of year their brains tell them to seek blue or black fruit. I imagine they would be safe from cherry fruit flies because they are much later than the flies are around, and being plums (technically) they might not be attractive to the flies.

Lon:  Did Professor Meader make the cross available commerically and  is it still available?  Has any of our  members planted this cross?  I have room  in the orchard and would like to give it a try in coastal zone 7.

Ward Barnes, Wake, VA

 

 



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