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It was written:

Thanks. Did plant some locust a few years ago; will consider putting 
some of the next strawberry planting there and see what happens-- if they 
like locust in particular are they responding to the nitrogen?

Keeping the moisture level consistent would be easier if the weather 
would cooperate. We do have drip irrigation.

My reply:

Perhaps I unintentionally mislead you.  What Earliglow does not like is 
intense sun, drying, and warm temperatures.  Two years ago I tried an 
experiment, which amounted to setting a few gallons of frozen water around a 
few Earliglow plants.  Thosee plants did not runt out in terms of berry 
production as soon as the uncontrolled group.  Understand this was a very 
loosely controlled experiment, but based on observation I formulated the 
hypothesis and though what the heck and tested it out.  

The thing about mature locust trees is they permit dappled shade in the 
summer and overall lower temperatures, somehting Earliglow clearly 
appreciates.   As for nitrogen, well I do not know.  That is an interesting 
idea in relation to locaust trees.

All the best...

TFB


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>   1. An FYI on Sparkle (fuwa fuwa usagi)
>   2. Re: honeybees (Cara & Tom Patterson)
>   3. Re: Strawberries (road's end farm)
>   4. Re: 'non synthetic' herbicide (del stubbs)
>   5. Re: Strawberries in Maine (Ray Thomas)
>   6. Re: Strawberries in Maine (John Bunker)
>   7. Re: A rewarding little fruit... (Betty Mayfield)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:50:35 -0800 (PST)
>From: fuwa fuwa usagi <fuwafuwausagi@muchomail.com>
>Subject: [NAFEX] An FYI on Sparkle
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
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>As an FYI Sparkle is a Fairfax x Aberdeen cross.   Fairfax has an uncertain 
>parentage.
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>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 05:46:53 -0700
>From: Cara & Tom Patterson <tomandcara@attbi.com>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Re: honeybees
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
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>The City of Aurora Colorado recently had a committee meeting voting to
>ban keeping honeybees in residential areas.  The crux of the matter
>came down to a person who is allergic to honeybee stings convincing 2
>of the 3 committee members that allowing honeybees to be kept in
>residential areas would endanger her life.  Although she lives in fear
>of her life she has not sought out desensitization but feels that
>banning honeybees is a better safety measure.  The local paper printed
>an article about the committee meeting.  
>
>http://www.zwire.com/site/News.cfm?BRD=1947&dept_id=168651&newsid=7030971&PAG=461&rfi=9
>
>I am urging any of you who feel that urban gardeners should have the
>availability of pollination for their different fruits and other crops
>to read the article and then post your comments at the end.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Tom
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>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:37:00 -0500
>From: "road's end farm" <organic101@linkny.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Strawberries
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 12:39  AM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
>
>>
>> It was written:
>>
>> I'd also like to find something that matches Earliglow for flavor and
>> earliness, but on which the size doesn't drop off so fast (it doesn't
>> have to be huge, medium would do; but after the first couple of pickings
>> Earliglow tends to drop off to miniatures).
>>
>> My reply:
>>
>> : ) That is what has killed it for commercial growers that can't get it 
>> through their heads that properly marketed the earliness and the 
>> overall quality can get a premium price, that makes up for the 
>> nonviable fruit offered later in the season.
>>
>I have in fact been so marketing it, and will certainly keep growing it 
>in preference to anything with less flavor. I'm just greedy; if I could 
>find something with all Earliglow's advantages and more advantages in 
>addition, it would be even nicer.
>
>> As an FYI you can moderate this behavior by shading it and keeping the 
>> moisture level consistent.  Earliglow does very well under locust trees.
>
>Thanks. Did plant some locust a few years ago; will consider putting 
>some of the next strawberry planting there and see what happens. It 
>would mess up the rotation though, as strawberries are in a multiyear 
>rotation with a number of vegetable crops, some of which need full sun. 
>Maybe we'll try shading them with something annual instead. -- if they 
>like locust in particular are they responding to the nitrogen?
>
>Keeping the moisture level consistent would be easier if the weather 
>would cooperate. We do have drip irrigation.
>>
>--Rivka
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:29:48 +0000
>From: "del stubbs" <pinewoodel@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] 'non synthetic' herbicide
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>We have been using buckwheat for several years to add organic matter to clay 
>soil, and as a rotation. I cut it down with a weed whip just as it blooms, 
>gets over 3'high, great weed supressor. I had been trying to till it under 
>with our troybilt but it really made work - wrapping up in the tines. Then I 
>read an opinion that the roots add more organic matter then the tops, and it 
>is good to just leave it on surface, sure easier!
>Del Stubbs  www.pinewoodforge.com  ag zone2/3
>
>>I'm not 100% sure if this is the same thing, but I know that if you
>>cultivate lightly, then plant buckwheat thickly, it grows up very thick,
>>blocking the ability of other weeds to germinate.  When it gets close to
>>flowering, mow it off and plant through the debris and stubble without
>>cultivating.  I have heard of growers who don't even mow - they use a 
>>roller
>>to flatten the plants to make a sort of sheet mulch.  This adds organic
>>matter which mulches the soil enough to block the germination of weed seed,
>>while the decomposing roots leave channels in the soil to improve the
>>structure.
>>-Lon Rombough
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>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:59:38 -0500
>From: "Ray Thomas" <RayNMary@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>Would like to know where I could get some of these old strawberries
>(Sparkle,Fairfax?)--ones that have divine taste not woody and tasteless. Do
>they grow in zone 7?
>Did the gentleman up in Maine cover his Strawberries with Straw? I found
>that the ones that got covered and are now covered with Ice and Snow are
>still big healthy plant and the others are very small and are going to have
>to work much harder to come back. Leaf cover works well too!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "loneroc" <loneroc@mwt.net>
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
>
>
>> In Wisconsin and Minnesota I have eaten none better than Sparkle.  I also
>> grow Earl, and find that while quite good, it doesn't match Sparkle.
>>
>> Although I haven't had one for a while, I remember Kent strawberries as
>> being the most flavorful out of a farmer's field that included Honeoye and
>> Annapolis.  Kent doesn't match sparkle by a long shot, but would be worth
>> trying.
>>
>> Steve Herje, Lone Rock, WI  USDA zone 3
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Bunker" <jbunker@gwi.net>
>> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:38 PM
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
>>
>>
>> > Just for the record, in Massachusetts and in Maine Sparkle is the best
>> > flavored berry I've eaten.   None other I've tried even come close.
>> >
>> > John Bunker
>> > Fedco
>> > Palermo Maine
>> >
>> > Where the strawberries are under 2 feet of snow.
>> >
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>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:38:02 -0500
>From: John Bunker <jbunker@gwi.net>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
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>Ray,
>
>We recommend mulching strawberries in Maine.  I would add to the various
>descriptions about Sparkle.  Not only is it the best processing berry, it is
>also the best tasting fresh berry.  I will check into Fairfax. I think I
>should be able to locate some plants.
>
>There are many sources of Sparkle plants.  We also sell them.
>
>John Bunker
>Fedco
>Palermo Maine
>
>Snowing hard today and +6 degrees.
>
>
>
>on 2/18/03 9:59 AM, Ray Thomas at RayNMary@msn.com wrote:
>
>> Would like to know where I could get some of these old strawberries
>> (Sparkle,Fairfax?)--ones that have divine taste not woody and tasteless. Do
>> they grow in zone 7?
>> Did the gentleman up in Maine cover his Strawberries with Straw? I found
>> that the ones that got covered and are now covered with Ice and Snow are
>> still big healthy plant and the others are very small and are going to have
>> to work much harder to come back. Leaf cover works well too!
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "loneroc" <loneroc@mwt.net>
>> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
>> 
>> 
>>> In Wisconsin and Minnesota I have eaten none better than Sparkle.  I also
>>> grow Earl, and find that while quite good, it doesn't match Sparkle.
>>> 
>>> Although I haven't had one for a while, I remember Kent strawberries as
>>> being the most flavorful out of a farmer's field that included Honeoye and
>>> Annapolis.  Kent doesn't match sparkle by a long shot, but would be worth
>>> trying.
>>> 
>>> Steve Herje, Lone Rock, WI  USDA zone 3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Bunker" <jbunker@gwi.net>
>>> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Strawberries in Maine
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Just for the record, in Massachusetts and in Maine Sparkle is the best
>>>> flavored berry I've eaten.   None other I've tried even come close.
>>>> 
>>>> John Bunker
>>>> Fedco
>>>> Palermo Maine
>>>> 
>>>> Where the strawberries are under 2 feet of snow.
>>>> 
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>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:48:46 -0800
>From: Betty Mayfield <bmayfield@columbia-center.org>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] A rewarding little fruit...
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>To the list,
>
>Glad to see the enthusiasm for strawberries .I always think of Isaac 
>Walton's quote, "As Dr. Boteler said of strawberries, 'Doubtless God could 
>have made  a better berry, but doubtless God never did.'"(1655)
>
>Most of the replies have come from the East or Midwest, so I will jump to 
>the Pacific. As you said, varieties tend to be local.
>
>The best I ever ate was as a child in Alaska from plants passed around in 
>village gardens. From the folklore and what I read in George Darrow's book 
>on strawberries, I believe they were crosses of wild and cultivated 
>varieties made at the Sitka experiment station between 1905 and 1923 . It 
>said the best selections were widely distributed.
>
>In the Pacific Northwest, the Marshall is legendary, but I have never 
>tasted it, as it apparently has lost its vigor to disease. Writers who 
>remembered the Marshall praised the Siletz as its equal, and I have eaten 
>and loved the Siletz with its aromatic "strawberry" flavor. Commercial 
>processors did not like it however, because its core came out when it was 
>picked.
>
>Today I give top marks to the Shuksan for flavor and aroma. Plants are 
>available from several sources, including Raintree in Morton, Wash. It is 
>tops for fresh eating and for frozen strawberry jam. It is not found in 
>stores or even farmers' markets, but is grown in some U-Pick fields.
>
>Betty Mayfield
>Oregon
>
>At 12:07 AM 2/17/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>Gang:
>>
>>Ok now on to a fruit that is delicious to eat, easy to grow, and offers so 
>>much for so little...Strawberries...
>>
>>I am always curious as to the obsession Nafexers seem to have with 
>>"antique' apples and their apathy toward some of the truly ambrosiatic 
>>(uhh, I think I just invented a word here) strawberries developed in the 
>>first part of the 20th century.   Just like with the apple the 
>>strawberries of today have more disease resistance than many of their 
>>forbearers but many lack the quintessential combination of flavor, aroma, 
>>and sugars that make for a truly exquisite palatary (hmmm, there goes 
>>another TFB creation also)  delight.  Today most strawberries are grown 
>>for their resistance to herbicides, uniformity of size throughout the 
>>growing season, shipping durability, and storage 
>>characteristics.    Flavor is a factor that is often considered as an 
>>afterthought, and sadly today few truly know what a high flavor strawberry 
>>tastes like..
>>
>>I grow 9 varieties of strawberries here, but for flavor nothing touches 
>>Fairfax an old 1923 cross and 1993 release from the U.S. Department of 
>>Agriculture.  I simply have not known a better tasting strawberry.  It is 
>>a bit tricky to grow, but I have found good success growing it in dappled 
>>shade, in rotting wood chips sweetened up with wood ash...they certainly 
>>are scrumptious little things...I am in the midwest outside of Chicago (in 
>>zone 4b (can you say burr)...
>>
>>I am curious what your favorite strawberry is, and naturally what region 
>>you grow it in (strawberries are very, very local...)  I guess I am simply 
>>stating I would be remiss to find out I missed a truly outstanding variety 
>>simply out of ignorance.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>the fluffy bunny
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A friend is preparing for a fruit presentation at a local museum. He has a
question that I could not answer, but perhaps some of you talented NAFEXers
can.
Thanks for your help, Steve

Scanning Fruit Photos
I'm preparing a presentation for this Saturday on my kiwifruit.  I'm about
to scan in photos and slides and am uncertain what resolution is needed for
use with a digital projector.  Do you know?

Les Beachy