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[fluffy bunny <the.fluffy.bunny@juno.com>]

Dan wrote:

  I have no legal training, but yet I think maybe the Supreme Court has
more authority in 
determining what is and what is not a right than the NAFEX board.  You
cannot 
post a notice obviating my property rights, or anyone's property rights,
and 
have it mean anything.  Again, at one time, this notice did mean
something 
because copyright resided with the publisher.  Now it does not. 

My reply:

You are absolutely correct here Dan.  The lawyers at Tuttle Publishing
reaffirmed this a little while back.   

Dan wrote:

My suggestion is that the bo(a)rd might consider requesting express
permission 
to post articles on the web.  Meanwhile, I will include a fairly
explicity 
copyright notice on my submissions.  

My reply:

A very reasonable solution to the problem.

Dan wrote:

 I think 
maybe it is time take a serious look at some sort of balance between
making 
material available and giving away the farm.

My reply:

I would also suggest the adoption of a privacy policy that is explicit
and adhered to.

Dan wrote:

 This is patently untrue.  Even if the Pomona notice had any force, 
which it does not, it cannot be construed to apply to anything which is 
nominally associated with NAFEX.  Next you will be saying that someone
can 
enter the files or computer of a member and copy what they find there
because 
the person is a NAFEX member and you have a notice in Pomona.  Please
think 
about this again.

My reply:

You are correct.

Dan wrote:

There is no "right to steal."

My reply:

There is no moral right, but in general, society condones theft.  Social
Security, and all other forms of well-fare are theft.  When you take the
labors from someone without their consent it is theft no matter how you
try and represent it, and no matter how you try and legally position it.

Wishing you the best,
                        TFB
 

 






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