Mounted search and rescue

["E.S." <ES212@QWEST.NET>]

Will you all change the subject ?  PLEASE let the Lippizans sleep....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Sikes" <halsikes@hotmail.com>
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Socialization / Lippizans



I stand corrected and appreciate the info received.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Helget" <helget@flynthyllsgypsy.com>
To: <Jorene@CEOates.com>; "Mounted search and rescue"
<msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Socialization / Lippizans


Gypsy Horses, or Coloured Cobs as they are known in England.

Tracy Helget
Flynt Hylls Gypsy Horses
www.flynthyllsgypsy.com
785-770-2053
Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a
game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and,
once it has done so, she will have to accept that her life will be
radically changed - Ralph Waldo Emerson

> From: Hal Sikes
> [â?¦]
>
> As to the Stallions being in portable stalls your Gelding would knock
> down, that speaks directly to their character and training.  Name me
> another breed where you can have 20 or more Stallions on the same hitching
> post without major problems.
>
> ==========
>
>
>
> Socialization in a herd environment works wonders for encouraging the
> disposition and ability to mix well with others for the vast majority of
> horses, regardless of gender. While it helps to socialize the horse as a
> youngster, this can also be accomplished with the more mature horse.
>
>
>
> For example, mixing in the herd as a younger horse teaches manners,
> particularly to studly colts (or even fillies) turned out with alpha mares
> and the â?okidâ? learns what â?oNOâ? means. Horses living in a less
> socialized environment (for example, primarily stall life) â?" or living
> with a human handler not respected as herd boss - tend to be more
> vulnerable to having unacceptable behavior. Where you can find a horse in
> dire need of manners rehabilitation is when the youngster has been raised
> in an environment where he or she is essentially taught there is no need
> to respect others in the herd or the human handlers.
>
>
>
> There are still QH breeders (primarily working stock, like prospects as
> cutters, working cow horse, reiners, etc.) who run herds of colts together
> until they are 2 or so, then start culling the least promising future
> riders from the herd. Those uncut young stallions learn acceptable herd
> behavior in the herd, and that carries over to mixing well with others in
> other environments if that early experience is reinforced.
>
>
>
> Obviously the well mannered horse is needed for MSAR, and good manners
> includes mixing well with other horses. Since discussion veered off to
> stallions, Iâ?Tll mention that since many folks donâ?Tt have well
> socialized and well mannered stallions â?" tend to keep them isolated,
> with little or no herd interaction â?" studs are commonly not considered
> good prospects for MSAR and the MSAR organization may have a written rule
> prohibiting stallions.  Humans have created this situation of stallions
> being considered unreliable mixed with others, and commonly that is now
> correct.
>
>
>
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