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  • From: Sam White <cedarrockcsa AT yahoo.com>
  • To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter
  • Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:22:47 -0700 (PDT)

Brigette,

Your local Sierra Club takes aerial photos? I know
national and most state chapters do no such thing,
fyi.

Sam White
National Ag Committee
Sierra Club

--- Brigette Leach
<avalonfarmshomegrown AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> I've been reading some of the responses to your post
> and am thinking
> "how paranoid are these people?" But then again, if
> you all live in more
> remote areas than I do, planes and helicopters are
> more unusual. We have
> planes and helicopters fly over our farm, literally,
> every day. My two
> cents is to not take it so personally. Perhaps,too,
> I'm more
> appreciative of law enforcement efforts because of
> the extensive meth
> problems that we have dealt with in our area. That
> stuff is really bad
> news!! And we've had anhydrous ammonia stolen, "el
> creepos" prowling
> around in our buildings, and on several occasions
> letting our livestock
> out, at night, as a distraction, so they could steal
> from the co-op
> across the road while we were chasing hogs.
>
> Leigh, any number of law enforcement agencies do use
> helicopters to find
> illegal marijuana operations, and typically fly
> fairly low. If anyone is
> using grow lights, it does show up with their
> equipment, and can trigger
> a red flag. We have purchased a great deal of
> equipment and supplies for
> our hydroponic operation through police auctions,
> all of it confiscated
> from lawbreakers. We have also had our crops
> destroyed because some
> "yahoo" of the non-law enforcement type has
> confiscated, if you will,
> our land for their crop of marijuana. At least
> around here, the
> marijuana growing "yahoos" are not the type I want
> prowling around my
> farm. If they are dumb enough to plant marijuana in
> seed corn fields,
> which are inspected regularly, they're dumb enough
> to do a lot of stupid
> stuff, like shoot people.
>
> Remember, too, that so few people understand any
> aspect of agriculture
> today, it probably doesn't occur to them that your
> animals would be
> bothered. We discovered this years ago when a hot
> air balloon event was
> started in our area. They just didn't know any
> better, but after several
> farmers complained, the balloonists were much more
> courteous, and we
> seldom have any problems with the balloonists now.
>
> The other thing that happens regularly around here
> is that photographers
> fly over farms, of all sizes, take photos and then
> approach farm owners
> hoping that the photos will be purchased. We also
> have several people in
> the area with private planes who fly very low
> sometimes, again, just not
> knowing any better. Oh, if you happen to be near a
> body of water, even a
> creek, that is part of a conservation project, the
> plane could be
> explained. It might also have been taking photos for
> FSA or crop
> insurance. It could also be the Sierra Club, who
> regularly flies around
> taking aerial photos.
>
> The whole thing might have been very innocent...
>
> Brigette
>
>
>
> Leigh Hauter wrote:
>
> >How prevalent is this?
> >
> >For over 15 minutes yesterday we had a helicopter
> circling our farm
> >(must have circled 15 or so times). Spending a
> great deal of time
> >over our hoophouses and greenhouse, scaring the
> heck our of our dogs,
> >chickens and turkeys. Do 'they' do this to
> everyone or are we being
> >subjected to some sort of special attention.
> >
> >I'm offended that my tax money is being used to
> upset our farm
> >animals. Of course there wasn't anything for
> 'them' to take pictures
> >of except tomatoes, peppers and eggplant, but
> still, I feel somewhat
> >violated by this intrusion. Just because I farm
> for a living do I
> >have less privacy rights than others? Also, I
> wonder if 'they' (it
> >looked like Coast Guard marking on the side of the
> helicopter, I
> >haven't got a good look at the pictures I took yet)
> do this to the
> >big commercial operations or is this a special form
> of harassment for
> >family farmers?
> >
> >Virginia.
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