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- From: Brigette Leach <avalonfarmshomegrown AT earthlink.net>
- To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter
- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:15:42 -0400
Sam, Then Michigan's must be unique because Anne Woiwode, director of Sierra Club's Michigan office, is in a video that they produced, and the video uses footage that could only have been attained by making low flights over certain farms. Brigette Sam White wrote: Brigette, Your local Sierra Club takes aerial photos? I know national and most state chapters do no such thing, fyi. Sam White National Ag Committee Sierra Club --- Brigette Leach <avalonfarmshomegrown AT earthlink.net> wrote:I've been reading some of the responses to your post and am thinking "how paranoid are these people?" But then again, if you all live in more remote areas than I do, planes and helicopters are more unusual. We have planes and helicopters fly over our farm, literally, every day. My two cents is to not take it so personally. Perhaps,too, I'm more appreciative of law enforcement efforts because of the extensive meth problems that we have dealt with in our area. That stuff is really bad news!! And we've had anhydrous ammonia stolen, "el creepos" prowling around in our buildings, and on several occasions letting our livestock out, at night, as a distraction, so they could steal from the co-op across the road while we were chasing hogs. Leigh, any number of law enforcement agencies do use helicopters to find illegal marijuana operations, and typically fly fairly low. If anyone is using grow lights, it does show up with their equipment, and can trigger a red flag. We have purchased a great deal of equipment and supplies for our hydroponic operation through police auctions, all of it confiscated from lawbreakers. We have also had our crops destroyed because some "yahoo" of the non-law enforcement type has confiscated, if you will, our land for their crop of marijuana. At least around here, the marijuana growing "yahoos" are not the type I want prowling around my farm. If they are dumb enough to plant marijuana in seed corn fields, which are inspected regularly, they're dumb enough to do a lot of stupid stuff, like shoot people. Remember, too, that so few people understand any aspect of agriculture today, it probably doesn't occur to them that your animals would be bothered. We discovered this years ago when a hot air balloon event was started in our area. They just didn't know any better, but after several farmers complained, the balloonists were much more courteous, and we seldom have any problems with the balloonists now. The other thing that happens regularly around here is that photographers fly over farms, of all sizes, take photos and then approach farm owners hoping that the photos will be purchased. We also have several people in the area with private planes who fly very low sometimes, again, just not knowing any better. Oh, if you happen to be near a body of water, even a creek, that is part of a conservation project, the plane could be explained. It might also have been taking photos for FSA or crop insurance. It could also be the Sierra Club, who regularly flies around taking aerial photos. The whole thing might have been very innocent... Brigette Leigh Hauter wrote:How prevalent is this? For over 15 minutes yesterday we had a helicoptercircling our farm(must have circled 15 or so times). Spending agreat deal of timeover our hoophouses and greenhouse, scaring theheck our of our dogs,chickens and turkeys. Do 'they' do this toeveryone or are we beingsubjected to some sort of special attention. I'm offended that my tax money is being used toupset our farmanimals. Of course there wasn't anything for'them' to take picturesof except tomatoes, peppers and eggplant, butstill, I feel somewhatviolated by this intrusion. Just because I farmfor a living do Ihave less privacy rights than others? Also, Iwonder if 'they' (itlooked like Coast Guard marking on the side of thehelicopter, Ihaven't got a good look at the pictures I took yet)do this to thebig commercial operations or is this a special formof harassment forfamily farmers? Virginia. _______________________________________________ Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.orghttp://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farmingGet the list FAQ at:http://www.marketfarming.net/mflistfaq.htmbegin:vcardfn:Brigette Leach n:Leach;Brigette org:Avalon Farms adr:;;14302 East OP Ave;Climax;MI;49034;United States email;internet:avalonfarmshomegrown AT eathlink.net tel;work:269-746-4648 tel;fax:269-7464393 tel;home:269-746-4648 tel;cell:269-720-2279 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.avalonfarmshomegrown.com version:2.1 end:vcard_______________________________________________Market-farming mailing list Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.orghttp://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farmingGet the list FAQ at: http://www.marketfarming.net/mflistfaq.htm__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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[Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins
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[Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Christine & Marlin, 07/19/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Sue Wells, 07/20/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Christine & Marlin, 07/20/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins, Shawnee Flowerfarmer, 07/20/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Christine & Marlin, 07/20/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Sue Wells, 07/20/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Marty Kraft, 07/12/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Brigette Leach, 07/13/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Sam White, 07/13/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Brigette Leach, 07/13/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, J & V Kooken, 07/13/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Sam White, 07/13/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Brigette Leach, 07/31/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Sam White, 07/31/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Brigette Leach, 07/13/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Sam White, 07/13/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Robert Schuler, 07/12/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
Alex McGregor, 07/12/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Jill Bussiere, 07/12/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, tonitime, 07/12/2006
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Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter,
DFORD8N, 07/12/2006
- Re: [Market-farming] hovering helicopter, Lucy Goodman, 07/13/2006
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[Market-farming] West Indian Gherkins,
Christine & Marlin, 07/19/2006
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