Skip to Content.
Sympa Menu

market-farming - [Market-farming] Re: The Use of Chemical Fertilizers

market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org

Subject: Market Farming

List archive

Chronological Thread  
  • From: rjweeks70 AT comcast.net
  • To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: [Market-farming] Re: The Use of Chemical Fertilizers
  • Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 17:34:04 +0000

I'm sorry you feel that way, Pat. I don't think anyone here is trying to
antagonize you for your choice of fertilizer.

You might try fertilizers based on kelp meal, which don't seem to attract my
cats or dogs - or a diluted compost tea would also work for seedlings.

Personally, I will never purchase, own or use any product made by the Scotts
company, because of their relationship with Monsanto. I don't support
companies that are destroying our ecology, our planet and our food base in
the name of investor profit.

Peace

Roger Weeks

Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:55:23 -0400
From: Pat Meadows <pat AT meadows.pair.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] The Use of Chemical Fertilizers
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>

Sorry, Sean, I don't care whether Coleman would or wouldn't
use Miracle Grow on his seedlings, or whether you would or
wouldn't.

I use chemical fertilizer on the seedlings in my living
room. It works for me.

I don't particularly care what you think about it either.

Pat
> Send Market-farming mailing list submissions to
> market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> market-farming-request AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> market-farming-owner AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Market-farming digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: The Use of Chemical Fertilizers (Tradingpost)
> 2. Re: Bulk Flower Seeds (marcy)
> 3. Re: The Use of Chemical Fertilizers (Pat Meadows)
> 4. Re: The Use of Chemical Fertilizers (Pat Meadows)
> 5. Re: Re:organic (Pat Meadows)
> 6. Re: Re:organic (Pat Meadows)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 08:33:47 -0600
> From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost AT gilanet.com>

> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] The Use of Chemical Fertilizers
> To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <200405050833470347.0C8903B0 AT mail.gilanet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
>
> The federal organic program has been severely criticized by many state
> certified
> organic producers who are hardly trying to "skirt the edges of organic". As
> for
> starting somewhere, it appears to be a giant step backwards from the goal
> of
> assuring chemical-free food, with loopholes for industrial agribusiness but
> burdensome and unnecessary paperwork for the smaller growers. It's fairly
> well
> known that the federal standards DO allow the corporate producers to "skirt
> the
> edges of organic". And of course nobody can assure their produce has no
> traces
> of pesticides etc., because the standards don't actually test the end
> products,
> they only concern the intentional inputs. As for Pat's methods, we need to
> look
> beyond arbitrary do's and don'ts and recognize the added value of growing
> locally for local consumption, esp home grown.
>
> paul tradingpost AT gilanet.com
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 5/5/2004 at 9:14 AM Sean Albiston wrote:
>
> >Pat and fellow chemical users,
> >
> >I would digress and suggest that you search out a more sustainable
> >alternative than chemicals for your seedlings, especially since you do seem
> >to care about what you produce. I am glad that the federally imposed
> >standard preclude folks who want to skirt the edges of 'organic'. The
> >federal rules have enough flexibility in them to ease any farms transition,
> >big and small. Yes, the rules aren't perfect, but everything needs a
> >start.
> >I'm a third year micro-farmer, first year NOP and have had zero problems
> >with the standards. I agree fully with the idea of genuine local food, but
> >the federal standards were also obviously needed to keep some farmers out,
> >especially those who are willing to use chemicals at any level of the cycle
> >for the sake of convenience. .
> >

> >Coleman's ideologies about beyond organic can be seen as being on the
> >better side of organic; what you suggest, at least on the inputs level, is
> >on the lesser. Would Mr. Coleman use miracle grow on his seedlings??
> >
> >
> >sean albiston
> >www.bluerooforganics.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 08:47:58 -0600
> From: "marcy" <marcy AT aculink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Bulk Flower Seeds
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <000e01c432af$f6607a40$6c9d76cc@marcy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> There's a small family-owned company here in CO that has a decent selection
> of zinnias - $25 to $28/lb - 3 varieties of giants in individual colors or
> mix and a couple smaller sizes.
> They only carry Bright Lights or Sensation mixed Cosmos - $22.95 and $30/lb.
>
> Burrel's Better Seed (Rocky Ford, CO - originally a huge melon growing area)

> for over 100 years. It's a black & white catalog, so I look at pics in
> other catalogs for colors, etc.
>
> 866 254-SEED (7333)
> 719-254-3318
> FAX 719-254-3319
> burrellseeds AT rmi.net
>
> Happy growing!
> Marcy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allan Balliett" <igg AT igg.com>
>
>
> > Keep meaning to ask:
> >
> > Can somone recommend a reliable source of affordable bulk flower seed
> > (1lb units) for cutflowers? (Zinnia, Cosmos, etc)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Allan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:55:23 -0400
> From: Pat Meadows <pat AT meadows.pair.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] The Use of Chemical Fertilizers
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <qevh905p12j2n9d0jgiscrtnroal56dn3j AT 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2004 09:14:58 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
> >Coleman's ideologies about beyond organic can be seen as being on the
> >better side of organic; what you suggest, at least on the inputs level, is

> >on the lesser. Would Mr. Coleman use miracle grow on his seedlings??
>
> Sorry, Sean, I don't care whether Coleman would or wouldn't
> use Miracle Grow on his seedlings, or whether you would or
> wouldn't.
>
> I use chemical fertilizer on the seedlings in my living
> room. It works for me.
>
> I don't particularly care what you think about it either.
>
> Pat
> --
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:56:50 -0400
> From: Pat Meadows <pat AT meadows.pair.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] The Use of Chemical Fertilizers
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <430i90tsq5omar68u83g7adtuhndeas0dc AT 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, 05 May 2004 07:14:16 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Pat, would the cats make a problem with earthworm castings fertilizer?
> >
>

> Maybe not. I've never seen it or heard of it before. I
> have no local sources for buying it. (We live in a very
> rural and somewhat isolated area, particularly for the
> northeastern USA.)
>
> Do you know of any online sources?
>
> Pat
> --
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:02:27 -0400
> From: Pat Meadows <pat AT meadows.pair.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Re:organic
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <670i90lilj73o72vj611grpc9744n3hcn6 AT 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2004 08:17:45 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Is there any herbicide which is considered to be organic??
> >Thanks, nancy parker,
>
> I pour undiluted white vinegar on witch grass in my garden.
> It works for me. I don't have any other really bad weeds,

> so I've not tried it on anything else.
>
> I do not remember if vinegar is a substance that is approved
> in the new government-mandated 'Organic Standards'.
>
> It's certainly within the meaning of the word 'organic' as
> it was used for many, many years until the government
> co-opted it and as the word is still used today in countries
> other than the USA (maybe other than Canada too).
>
> Pat
> --
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 11:03:37 -0400
> From: Pat Meadows <pat AT meadows.pair.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Re:organic
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <jh0i90djdksmq2bctmqvlifi7vqsb10lla AT 4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, 05 May 2004 09:03:23 -0500, you wrote:
>

> >I don't know but there is a 20% vinegar solution that I am thinking of
> >buying for some poison ivey and bermuda grass.
> >
> Why not just buy white vinegar and dilute it with water?
>
> Pat
> --
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Market-farming mailing list
> Market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/market-farming
>
> Get the list FAQ at: http://www.marketfarming.net/mflistfaq.htm
>
>
> End of Market-farming Digest, Vol 16, Issue 11
> **********************************************





Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.

Top of Page