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  • From: "Lynn Montgomery" <sunfarm@toast.net>
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  • Subject: [Livingontheland] Plant Consciousness
  • Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:35:36 -0700

Dear Paul, Harvey, and Debbie,
    Pam Montgomery is my ex-sister in law and mother of my niece. I met up with her last spring and we discussed "Plant Spirit Healing-A Guide to Working with Plant Consciousness". Pam is one of those special people that breaks through barriers most of us hit up against, with such ease. Although Paul paints me as a pragmatist, and that is true, I do talk to plants and have found I like them a lot more than most people. The problem is; they don't talk English and one must take a lot of time to realize that this is a non-language communication. Plants are very similar to us genetically and we are more closely related than most realize. After we come together in the close-knit communities of the future, or perish, then we will have the sensitivity to not dismiss and scoff at our relations and start to become a real part of true existence. So, keep on talking and maybe you can assist in translations.
Best regards, Lynn Montgomery
 
Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:40:29 -0700
From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Permaculture - Farms for the Future
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Lynn has been growing in the Sandia foothills for maybe thirty years, long before we had a lot of farmers markets and growing got cool. As for carbon footprint, he has an old one room adobe on his 60 acres of archeological interest. He's a realist; dealing with the water commissions and development interests, working to protect the water supply of traditional growers along the rivers of New Mexico. We could get up to his place more often if he'd fix his road ;-)

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 1/18/2010 at 4:04 PM Lynn Montgomery wrote:

>Dear Paul,
>   I have to agree. I live in the semi-desert too. And in an old hippie
>commune where I'm the only one left. I do a lot of regional water
>planning, which means I'm aware of the changes climate brings to NM and
>Arizona. Over 2 thousand years. Five years is way too short to claim
>victory. Wait about 20 years and the normal, usual, decade long drought,
>at the very least, will arrive and all that wonderful permaculture will
>dry up and blow away. A lot of this is simple anthropocentric human
>arrogance-"we are so superior to everything else in the universe and our
>wonderful superior minds can overcome anything". Anything except our own
>folly. Those that study archaeology here can tell us of lots of tribes and
>civilizations that had the same attitude, and disappeared completely. The
>people in the old days here, when they were fortunate to have a good year,
>would grow 5 years worth of beans, at least. When it doesn't rain at all,
>and I mean not at all, then all that catchment etc. is nothing but ugly
>alteration of the natural state. I hope that reality and the long cycles
>of nature come into some of these theories and temper them with real
>reason. And humility.
>    Being spiritual and bringing the rain and life is not easy. And one
>has to be very careful. Our local Native Americans are more careful than
>anyone I know of and sometimes their thousands of years old ways don't
>work. So don't expect something that you just made up to work very well.
>The individual can have all those relationships we are talking about, and
>that is a very good thing, but we aren't going to change the way people do
>things. It would be nice if all those millions suddenly went away. I
>always hope a good disease will come around and do the job and those left
>don't have to feel guilty.
>Regards, Lynn Montgomery
>
>To Grow a garden is to believe in tomorrow
>- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
Message: 17
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:26:54 -0500
From: Harvey Ussery <
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Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Secret Teachings of Plants
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Debbie Mcdonald wrote:
> by Stephen Harrod Buhner. Anyone read it . I am going to get this book upon a recommendation of an herbalist that I admire, I have the Secret Life of Plants which is also good but Buhner takes it in the direction that inspires me.
>   Buhner also does the forward on a book I started and am liking called Plant Spirit Healing A Guide to Working with Plant Consciousness by Pam Montgomery.
 
Dang, Debbie, you're just insisting on this woo-woo stuff, aren't you!

Yes, I have read SHB's SECRET TEACHINGS OF PLANTS--along with most of
his other books (also attended a weekend seminar wi him coupla years
ago)--and it was a tremendous inspiration, broadened my relation to the
Green People considerably.

'Bout halfway through, you'll conclude plants are a hell of a lot
smarter than people.

Enjoy.

~Harvey

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Harvey in northern Virginia
www.themodernhomestead.us
 
The threat of nuclear weapons and man's ability to destroy the environment are really alarming. And yet there are other almost imperceptible changes--I am thinking of the exhaustion of our natural resources, and especially of soil erosion--and these are perhaps more dangerous still, because once we begin to feel their repercussions it will be too late.  ~The Dalai Lama




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