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  • From: "Andeanfx" <andeanfx@midrivers.com>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] What Alice Waters is Missing
  • Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:52:24 -0600

Cummon Paul, what do you mean "if you know how to cook?" Why do you think I have been trying to borrow Barb for the last few years. hehehe Dean


Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain. -- Anon.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] What Alice Waters is Missing



You have a point. But I still stress that the good stuff you can buy from
farmers markets can save much of the old food budget, maybe most - if you
know how to cook. We've priced a lot of packaged items compared to scratch,
and it's true. And yes professional lifestyles can get in the way of doing
a lot for yourself. But if you look at the thousands who've been laid off
in Wall Street lately, there will likely be a lot fewer professionals in
our future. Burpee and others claim seed sales have skyrocketed. Times are
changing, but it takes some skill in the garden or the kitchen to make
healthy food affordable. This is a theme I haven't seen explained anywhere
on the Internet - that healthy can be cheaper.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 3/26/2009 at 7:30 PM Liz wrote:


(nonsense. if people learned how to cook they'd find eating organic is
cheaper than processed storebought. and of course most of us can't get
enough variety at farmers markets, no surprise, so we need to grow more
of
our own or buy local from other sources. too hard for the clueless to
figure out.)


I agree, but I think what the author was saying was, "With my current
lifestyle [and by extension, that of the people she was writing for], I
can't eat the way Alice Waters says we should eat." She didn't sound like
a
person who was eating much processed food, but there aren't many
professional lifestyles that can be maintained while you're growing enough

garden to feed yourself at the same time (first hand experience speaking
here).

If Alice Waters realizes the extent of lifestyle change that's going to be

required to eat healthy, local food, she isn't talking much about it. Nor
are most of the others who are advocating for healthy, locally grown food.

Perhaps that's because not all of them understand what it takes to provide

it, but it may also be that no one would listen at all if they just said
bluntly, "You're going to have to grow a substantial percentage of your
own
food, real soon now."

Every time the stock market closes up five points, it sets progress back
another couple of months. People take a deep breath and say, "Well,
everything's looking up again, no need to (reduce consumption, save money,

plant a garden, etc.)." No real change is going to happen until we're at
or
beyond the point of no return.

Aren't I just a Pollyanna today :-(

Liz
http://life-as-a-spectator-sport.com

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