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  • From: Daniel Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] farms heal
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:45:56 -0600

Thanks, Tommy.
I mostly just wanted to vent sarcasm. I'll admit that I am so jealous of the permaculture movement I can't stand it. "Why did I learn about all of this equipment if I don't need it?" in other words. I bought my farm thinking I would start something transition-like here, but the neighborhood isn't cultured for it. Nobody wants to think or work at such mundane things as the basis of all life or their own food source. Perhaps as the debt-money runs out, they will start to re-think their lives....

I am also on TransitionUS and Transition Wisconsin. Thanks for posting the link. :-)

Dan Conine
Belgium,WI


From: Tommy Tolson <healinghawk@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Farms Heal
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
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I recall, years ago, running into my friend Shepherd Bliss in Sonoma County, CA again and again to find him with arms in slings, a patch over one eye, etc. He'd tell me what happened, and say, "Farming is dangerous."
I never tried farming. I built a Permaculture food forest and grew vegetables, berries, etc. on the berms.
In Vietnam when I was still a kid, danger lost its allure for me.
One of my teachers at New College in Santa Rosa, Richard Heinberg, advised, for maintaining economic viability, "Learn how to fix something."
Instead, I went to grad school to learn how to be a writer of fiction.
But now I'm learning how to fix industrial society in the Transition Movement.
Check it out. http://transitionus.ning.com

Smiles.
Tommy Tolson
Transition Texas

On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Dan Conine wrote:


Maybe those vegan commune farms are relaxing and healing places, but
I've got a feeling that if I joined one, I'd be getting all the stress
when the 'artists' figured out I know how to fix things and make things
work.

Don Bowen wrote:
I agreed to help an organic farmer fix his equipment. I did it for a place
to park my trailer for a while. After several months it moved from helping
out to where he almost acted as if I were an employee. Fixing things is a
skill few bother to develop.






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