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  • From: Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] no till
  • Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:10:04 -0700 (PDT)

Phil,
 
I read your message as "10 +/- 21 C" = -11 to + 31 C.  In other words I
concentrated on the "+/-" without paying attention to the "to".
 
10 to 21 C sounds a lot more humane, and even though I have no idea
about what it means in practice, it probably makes things sort of
predictable.
 
Dieter Brand
Portugal
 
PS: In the South of Portugal, where I live, typical day/night temperature
figures range between 40/19 in summer to about 10/-3 in winter, rarely
higher or lower.

Phil Bunch <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:
How did you derive the range you mention?  Measured temps at about 300 hundred meters lower elevation are generally between 10C and 21C year around with slight variations between wet season and dry season.. What I have observed at the site is very close to this.
 

From: livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Brand
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:30 AM
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] no till
 
Phil,
 
That makes it -11 C  to +31 C all year round?  Interesting!
 
According to a study by Rolf Derpsch, no-till is mostly practiced in the
US (about 19 million hectares) and in Latin America.  While most no-till
in the US uses herbicide-killed cover crops, you may be able to find
traditional practices such as "tapado" that don't rely on herbicides in
Latin America.  Often best to look close to home.
 
Dieter Brand
Portugal

Phil Bunch <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:
Not in the arctic, rather at 2400 meters in the tropical Andes. Approximate year-around range is 10C to +/- 21C.
 

From: livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Brand
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:01 PM
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] no till
 
Phil,
 
What do you mean by constantly cool climate? Do you
live in the Arctic?
 
The presence of a cold season is no impediment to no-till,
whereas, a dry season can be a problem.
 
Dieter Brand
Portugal

Phil Bunch <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:
Paul

Do you have any input on constantly cool climates?

-----Original Message-----
From: livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
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TradingPostPaul
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:54 AM
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] no till


One thing tillage does is expose more soil to the air, which oxidizes the
decomposed organic matter or humus faster. Since humus breaks down faster
in warmer climates, tillage speeds it up even more. The result is lowered
microbial populations and poor soil structure.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 10/7/2007 at 10:23 AM Rhoda Skavroneck wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I live in Central Florida. Do you know if No Till is good here?
>
>Thanks
>
>Rhoda
>


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