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  • From: A Deville <dreadkali@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Permaculture Training in Western Virginia
  • Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings Paul,
   I agree with your observations in reference to Permaculture training and "Bill's" opposition to alot of the bull" around these issues. "Bill Mollison" is my teacher/mentor and my friend,and I know personaly that he is against these enormous fee for Permaculture information,and some of the other negative routes that others have taken, and as well have gone against the trueness of  what P.C is all about and that which "Bill" has taught, one of which is to be of true service to the people! Its been taught and stresses by "Bill" that people not affording the cost of instructions regardless be given a percentage of slots for "free admission", and this was to particular be directed towards "Native Americans, and" Third world" perspective partiscipants! Few have adheared to this aspect when attempting P.C courses, and for the most part out for only the doller. Yet there are still those of  us around the globe whom continue to share the knowledge of P.C  with others at no cost(as i've been doing for the last 20 years) or very nominal costs just to cover the expenses. Caring for the land and its people as P.C exspouses, certainly does not mean ripping them off; as many courses have done doller wise.  And lastly> THE COST OF A   P.C  COURSE DOES  NOT  FOR  A  PERMACULTURIST  MAKE  !!!!!!!!!
Peace and Light............"Dee Deville" (Gaia Permaculture, Georgia

TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net> wrote:

Anytime an advertisement for a permaculture course comes up, I'm going to point out that it's only an ecological living philosophy, not a how-to for a complete grower, not a route to fast, economical food production for oneself, or a neighborhood, or a farmers market. Also I'd point out that Mollison *lived* his philosophy for many years and was a university professor, and has been seriously at odds with the Americans who have tried to cash in on his work and name.

I notice the cost is not revealed up front; it rarely is. The cost of these weekend or weeklong seminars is out of reach for the millions of poor and working class who need growing instruction the most. Mollison's book is a lot cheaper.

paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
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The care of the Earth is our most ancient and most worthy, and after all our most pleasing responsibility. To cherish what remains of it and to foster its renewal is our only hope.
- Wendell Berry
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On 5/11/2006 at 6:49 AM P Corcoran wrote:

>Association for Regenerative Culture announces
>Permaculture Design Courses
>will be held near Roanoke, Virginia
>
>Fundamentals of Permaculture Design
>May 26 - June 3, 2006
>Permaculture Design Practicum
>July 21 - 29, 2006
>
>
>"Permanent agriculture" or "permanent culture," a term coined by
>Australians David Holmgren and Bill Mollison in the 1970s, describes a
>design system for creating human settlements that function in harmony with
>nature. Incorporating traditional knowledge, modern science, and the
>ecological patterns of the living world, permaculture design is applicable
>to farms, gardens, organizations, housing developments, towns and
>villages, or city neighborhoods.
>
>Instructors: Peter Bane is the publisher of “Permaculture Activist.” Since
>1992 Peter has taught permaculture to over 700 students in locales from
>Canada to Patagonia. Last year he gave the closing keynote presentation to
>the 7th International Permaculture Convergence in Croatia.
>Keith Johnson was Director of Sonoma (California) Permaculture until 1997.
>For the past 10 years he has managed a design, consulting, and
>construction company specializing in masonry, rock walls, waterfalls,
>earth repair, food forestry, and runoff management.
>Dr. Lee Barnes received a Ph.D. in Environmental Horticulture from the
>University of Florida and has served as an agricultural extension agent
>for the state of North Carolina. He is a land stewardship consultant and a
>dowser who is passionate about bioregional and environmental education in
>the Southern Appalachians.
>Dave O’Neill is the owner and operator of Radical Roots Community Farm and
>the Director of the Arboretum at James Madison University in Harrisonburg,
>Virginia. Dave teaches permaculture design and organic gardening classes
>at Blue Ridge Community College and has experience in landscape design.
>
>For more information about the courses, including the course syllabus,
>tuition, and registration forms, go to:
>http://www.permacultureactivist.net/DesignCourse/PcSyllabus.htm,
> or call (540) 344-5013.
>
>
>
>
>If you want one year of prosperity, grow grain.
>If you want ten years of prosperity, grow trees.
>If you want one hundred years of prosperity, grow people.
>
>Chinese Proverb
>
>
>
>
>Pamela Corcoran 540-344-5013


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