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- From: rua AT mindspring.com
- To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:49:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Regading: "I can't talk to someone who is stupid enough to buy that."
Z,
I have long been of the opinion that we invaded Iraq because of reasons other
than WMD.
I believe I've posted numerous times that it was part of a global, long-term
strategy,
ala the game RISK.
I would hope our strategists think in terms of 20 years or more, although
the public may not have the appreciation for strategy to support that kind of
long term planning. Imagine how disastrous it would be for our strategists
and sitting presidents to think in terms only of their term in office. You
don't make history-changing invasions like this to find a few bombs. Our
presence in Korea has been stable for decades, same with the Berlin wall, and
Cuba. Stability was kept, people and goverments were allowed to self-govern,
and atrocities were curbed. Lincoln was widely opposed, as was Washington
when they offered superior strategies. Lincoln had a better understanding and
sense of responsbility for the country than many of his detractors,
and stood by his decision despite enormous loss of life as a percentage of
our population.
I enjoyed Dan's analysis, although I don't know if that is the driving cause
or one of several. I do think his analysis underscores the maxim "countries
don't have friends, they have interests". I think it is entirely within the
realm of possibility, that Bush made choices that he thought protected
American interests, and were good for the most citizens of the country. I
don't believe Bush' goal was a short term snatch and grab, nor a 'you hit my
father', nor any of the other trivial motivations thrown about. Bush is
already rich; his friends are already rich; the best thing he can do for his
family and his ego, is to affect a great change for the better in the world.
If you want to disagree on tactics, fine, but I fail to see a believable
motive for the conspiracy theories.
Pray that whoever wins, it is by a 3% margin or more.
Don
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[internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
rua, 10/22/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
Evan Zimmerman, 10/22/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] supporting democracy growth,
Don Rua, 10/30/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] supporting democracy growth,
zman, 10/30/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] supporting democracy growth, Evan Zimmerman, 10/30/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] supporting democracy growth,
zman, 10/30/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] supporting democracy growth,
Don Rua, 10/30/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses, Michael Czeiszperger, 10/22/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses, David Minton, 10/22/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
rua, 10/22/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
zman, 10/22/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses, Evan Zimmerman, 10/22/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses, David Minton, 10/22/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
zman, 10/22/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] Z and Dan responses,
Evan Zimmerman, 10/22/2004
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