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[internetworkers] What the hell is "bvcssek"?

From: "Steve Steele" <Steve AT mindbenderstudios.com>
To: <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [internetworkers] What the hell is "bvcssek"?
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:44:24 -0400

Hell INW geniuses,

Thanks for the advice on dealing with all my
spyware and pop up ads. In my ongoing quest to
regain control over my PC, I have a file in my
temp folder called "bvcssek" any attempt to
delete, rename or open it in with any application
(mainly WordPad) doesn't work. I usually get this
message.

"Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full
or write protected and the file is not in use by
another application."

The write protection is turned off. A search
online yields no information.

Can someone lead me to a resource to discover
what this file is and how can I remove it? I think
it may be the source of the remaining pop ups and
hijacking I am experiencing. It may be an ms-dos
command.

PS, I've installed Spybot and love it. It found
166 items related to spyware and removed them.
I'd appreciate any information.

Thanks
Steve

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Today's Topics:

1. 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (cmccarthy1)
2. Re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (Ian Meyer)
3. re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (burnett AT pobox.com)
4. Re: re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (David R. Matusiak)
5. Re: re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (Ian Meyer)
6. Re: re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (James Manning)
7. Gas Stoves (David Minton)
8. RE: Gas Stoves (Jim Ray)
9. Re: Gas Stoves (Shea Tisdale)
10. Re: Gas Stoves (David Minton)
11. Re: Gas Stoves (Shea Tisdale)
12. Re: re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03 (Ian Meyer)
13. Re: Gas Stoves (David Minton)
14. Re: Gas Stoves (zman)
15. RE: Gas Stoves (Jim Ray)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:25:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: cmccarthy1 <cmccarthy1 AT nc.rr.com>
Subject: [internetworkers] 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
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Anyone else planning to hit 42nd Street tomorrow night? Colleen

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:14:01 -0400
From: Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To:

Internetworkers AT happyhouse.metalab.unc.edu:"http://www.ibiblio.org/internetw
orkers/"
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i might be there even though i cant drink....directions?

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 12:25, cmccarthy1 wrote:

> Anyone else planning to hit 42nd Street tomorrow night? Colleen
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:25:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: burnett AT pobox.com
Subject: [internetworkers] re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
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Ian Meyer ianmeyer at mac.com wrote:
> i might be there even though i cant drink....directions?

http://triangle.citysearch.com/profile/6179193

Steve Burnett

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:28:19 -0400
From: "David R. Matusiak" <dave AT matusiak.org>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
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On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 06:25 PM, burnett AT pobox.com wrote:

> Ian Meyer ianmeyer at mac.com wrote:
>> i might be there even though i cant drink....directions?
>
> http://triangle.citysearch.com/profile/6179193
>
> Steve Burnett

thanks for the quick tip, Steve! and Ian - even if you cannot drink,
if you like any type of seafood (and can stand the wait!) then you will
like 42nd St Oyster Bar. i have found their dishes to be anywhere from
very good to spectacular.

unfortunately, i cannot make it to the beer and seafood event tomorrow
nite. i hope those that do venture out have a good time!

dave m.

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:48:05 -0400
From: Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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oh yes, seafood = GREAT

i had some delicious mahi at kemps the other night!

see you guys there possibly

ian

(and thanks for the link too)

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 18:28, David R. Matusiak wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 06:25 PM, burnett AT pobox.com wrote:
>
>> Ian Meyer ianmeyer at mac.com wrote:
>>> i might be there even though i cant drink....directions?
>>
>> http://triangle.citysearch.com/profile/6179193
>>
>> Steve Burnett
>
> thanks for the quick tip, Steve! and Ian - even if you cannot drink,
> if you like any type of seafood (and can stand the wait!) then you
> will like 42nd St Oyster Bar. i have found their dishes to be
> anywhere from very good to spectacular.
>
> unfortunately, i cannot make it to the beer and seafood event tomorrow
> nite. i hope those that do venture out have a good time!
>
> dave m.
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:57:14 -0400
From: James Manning <jmm AT sublogic.com>
Subject: [internetworkers] Re: re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> i had some delicious mahi at kemps the other night!

fwiw, their cajun broiled fish (flounder is my fav) is great - i wish
they had a hotter hot sauce on the table than texas pete, but you can
always bring your own :)
--
James Manning <http://www.sublogic.com/james/>
GPG Key fingerprint = B913 2FBD 14A9 CE18 B2B7 9C8E A0BF B026 EEBB F6E4

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 23:59:25 -0400
From: David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>
Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric stove, but am
considering switching to gas. I have gas going to the house for the heating
system. How much work do you think it would be to have a gas connection run
to my kitchen? My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.

Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone have a
recommended company to do this sort of work?

Thanks,
David

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:53:12 -0400
From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
call.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
> To: InterNetWorkers
> Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>
>
> It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
> stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
> to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
> think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
> My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
>
> Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
> have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:32:18 -0400
From: "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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I think they will do it for free if you buy the stove from them. Otherwise
it's around $100 for the run. They ran a line for my gas grill and it was
$150. It was slightly more because it was a 40 foot run with all metal
pipe, an anchor point, ground, and cut off valve.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:53 AM
Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves

> That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
> lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
> call.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
> > To: InterNetWorkers
> > Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >
> >
> > It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
> > stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
> > to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
> > think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
> > My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
> > have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:04:27 -0400
From: David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <BB29BE3B.164EB%dminton AT mindspring.com>
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Wow, if it is that inexpensive to run gas, why was I considering an electric
stove? Silly me.

David

On 7/3/03 8:32 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:

> I think they will do it for free if you buy the stove from them.
Otherwise
> it's around $100 for the run. They ran a line for my gas grill and it was
> $150. It was slightly more because it was a 40 foot run with all metal
> pipe, an anchor point, ground, and cut off valve.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
> To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
> <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>
>
>> That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
>> lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
>> call.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
>>> To: InterNetWorkers
>>> Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>>>
>>>
>>> It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
>>> stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
>>> to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
>>> think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
>>> My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
>>> have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:08:15 -0400
From: "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Because gas is expensive? Price of natural gas has trippled in the last
year and Gas stoves cost more than electric.
Electric stoves don't have a problem blowing up...

Those are the only reasons I can think of...get one. Oh and get an oven
that can be conventional or convection...you'll love it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Minton" <dminton AT mindspring.com>
To: "InterNetWorkers" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves

> Wow, if it is that inexpensive to run gas, why was I considering an
electric
> stove? Silly me.
>
> David
>
> On 7/3/03 8:32 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
>
> > I think they will do it for free if you buy the stove from them.
Otherwise
> > it's around $100 for the run. They ran a line for my gas grill and it
was
> > $150. It was slightly more because it was a 40 foot run with all metal
> > pipe, an anchor point, ground, and cut off valve.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
> > To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
> > <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:53 AM
> > Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >
> >
> >> That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
> >> lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
> >> call.
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
> >>> To: InterNetWorkers
> >>> Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
> >>> stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
> >>> to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
> >>> think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
> >>> My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
> >>> have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> David
> >>>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:17:17 -0400
From: Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] re: 42nd Street -- CBC -- 7/3/03
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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is everyone going to try to get there at a specific time, or just be
there in general?

thanks
ian

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:50:15 -0400
From: David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <BB29C8F7.16503%dminton AT mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

We were looking at mid-range ranges, so the gas (convection) ranges are
about the same cost as the electrics (flat-top with convection) at about
$1,600.

This gas KitchenAid looks interesting:

http://www.kitchenaid.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=434291&p
rmenbr=136&catname=Ranges&sku=KGSC308LSS

Or this electric:

http://www.kitchenaid.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=434240&p
rmenbr=136&catname=Ranges&sku=KESC308LSS

There are also some Jenn-Air ranges we looked at, but they were about $300
more.

I had not considered the cost of gas to run the range.

David

On 7/3/03 11:08 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:

> Because gas is expensive? Price of natural gas has trippled in the last
> year and Gas stoves cost more than electric.
> Electric stoves don't have a problem blowing up...
>
> Those are the only reasons I can think of...get one. Oh and get an oven
> that can be conventional or convection...you'll love it.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Minton" <dminton AT mindspring.com>
> To: "InterNetWorkers" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>
>
>> Wow, if it is that inexpensive to run gas, why was I considering an
> electric
>> stove? Silly me.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 7/3/03 8:32 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think they will do it for free if you buy the stove from them.
> Otherwise
>>> it's around $100 for the run. They ran a line for my gas grill and it
> was
>>> $150. It was slightly more because it was a 40 foot run with all metal
>>> pipe, an anchor point, ground, and cut off valve.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
>>> To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
>>> <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:53 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>>>
>>>
>>>> That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
>>>> lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
>>>> call.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
>>>>> To: InterNetWorkers
>>>>> Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
>>>>> stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
>>>>> to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
>>>>> think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
>>>>> My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
>>>>> have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:52:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: zman <zman AT gibbon.kungfumonkey.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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You have to ask yourself "how into cookin are you?" Ther are reasons that
no self respecting restauraunt will have an electric range...

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, David Minton wrote:
> We were looking at mid-range ranges, so the gas (convection) ranges are
> about the same cost as the electrics (flat-top with convection) at about
> $1,600.
>
> This gas KitchenAid looks interesting:
>
>
http://www.kitchenaid.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=434291&p
> rmenbr=136&catname=Ranges&sku=KGSC308LSS
>
> Or this electric:
>
>
http://www.kitchenaid.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=434240&p
> rmenbr=136&catname=Ranges&sku=KESC308LSS
>
> There are also some Jenn-Air ranges we looked at, but they were about $300
> more.
>
> I had not considered the cost of gas to run the range.
>
> David
>
> On 7/3/03 11:08 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
>
> > Because gas is expensive? Price of natural gas has trippled in the last
> > year and Gas stoves cost more than electric.
> > Electric stoves don't have a problem blowing up...
> >
> > Those are the only reasons I can think of...get one. Oh and get an oven
> > that can be conventional or convection...you'll love it.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Minton" <dminton AT mindspring.com>
> > To: "InterNetWorkers" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >
> >
> >> Wow, if it is that inexpensive to run gas, why was I considering an
> > electric
> >> stove? Silly me.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> On 7/3/03 8:32 AM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think they will do it for free if you buy the stove from them.
> > Otherwise
> >>> it's around $100 for the run. They ran a line for my gas grill and it
> > was
> >>> $150. It was slightly more because it was a 40 foot run with all
metal
> >>> pipe, an anchor point, ground, and cut off valve.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
> >>> To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
> >>> <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:53 AM
> >>> Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That flexible yellow TracPipe makes child's play out of running gas
> >>>> lines. The gas company will do the job for you, though. Give 'em a
> >>>> call.
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:59 PM
> >>>>> To: InterNetWorkers
> >>>>> Subject: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is time to get a new stove. I currently have an electric
> >>>>> stove, but am considering switching to gas. I have gas going
> >>>>> to the house for the heating system. How much work do you
> >>>>> think it would be to have a gas connection run to my kitchen?
> >>>>> My house has a crawl space, where I guess the line would run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have an idea of how much this would cost? Anyone
> >>>>> have a recommended company to do this sort of work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> David
> >>>>>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:57:09 -0400
From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID:
<27E07D7E7F548C4A95EEAC2059246FCE0362A7 AT turtle.terrapinjunction.com>

amen. instant on/instant off with gas. lots of memory with electric.
the electric elements store energy.

-----Original Message-----
From: zman [mailto:zman AT gibbon.kungfumonkey.com]
Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 11:52 AM
To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
Cc:
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Gas Stoves

You have to ask yourself "how into cookin are you?" Ther are
reasons that
no self respecting restauraunt will have an electric range...

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