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  • From: Mark Andrews <mandrews AT ibiblio.org>
  • To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: RIAA to target individual internet users
  • Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:34:48 -0400


They may want to do this all they want, but I have a hard time seeing how
any such law would ever survive a constitutional challenge.

-Mark

On 7/3/02 4:13 PM, "David R. Matusiak" <matusiak AT speakeasy.net> wrote:

> they can't do any of this legally. it goes against the Digital Millenium
> Copyright Act (DMCA). but, since they paid to install the DMCA in the first
> place, i'm sure they will just write another big check and suddenly this
> will
> be legal. for them. and them alone.
>
> you will still be a criminal if you crack their servers, however.
> dave ;)
> ___ _ _____ . ....
> m a h t o o z e e a c k a t s p e e k e e z e e d o t n e t
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>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Bill Geschwind wrote:
>
>> The whole intellectual property issue aside, the one thing I find most
>> alarming about this is that they are trying to get permission to delete
>> files from individuals' hard drives!!! What is on my hard drive is my
>> business and I will be very pissed if some corporate narc goes snooping
>> around in it. In what way would this be different from an illegal search
>> and seizure? What if I decided that I wanted to name a file that was not
>> a music file 'coolsong.mp3' (replace 'coolsong' with the name of any
>> song carried by any of those labels) just to be eccentric, and they
>> tried to delete it? What assurances would I have that they would only be
>> looking for and deleting music files and not looking at, cataloging,
>> deleting, other private information of mine on my computer? Who the hell
>> do these bastards think they are? I thought the Stasi died with the fall
>> of the Berlin Wall!
>>
>> - Bill
>>
>> *********************************************************************
>> Bill Geschwind
>> Technical Assistance Manager
>> Department of Technology and Systems Support
>> Division of Student Affairs, University of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill
>> 03 Teague Hall, CB# 5510 (919) 962-5629
>> Chapel Hill, NC 27599 geschwin AT email.unc.edu
>> *********************************************************************
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael S Czeiszperger [mailto:czei AT webperformanceinc.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:59 PM
>> To: InterNetWorkers
>> Subject: [internetworkers] RIAA to target individual internet users
>>
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>> This whole trend is really scary. The RIAA is simultaneously planning a
>> campaign of lawsuits against individuals, while working through their
>> lackeys
>> in Congress to allow them to erase files from individuals hard drives.
>>
>> The justification for the lawsuit compaign is outrageous-- a mere 5%
>> drop in
>> sales in the middle of a recession.
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/775684.asp
>>
>> "Suits against individual Internet users - particularly if the
>> defendants
>> aren't seeking to create profitable operations based on their online
>> music
>> activities - could cause a backlash from some of the record industry's
>> own
>> fans and biggest customers. But many music executives, watching revenue
>> sag
>> as home compact-disc copying has soared, feel that they have little
>> choice if
>> they are to save their business. World-wide music sales dropped 5% last
>> year..."
>>
>> I don't want to give the impression that I'm for the wholesale stealing
>> of
>> intellectual property; I'm not. The problem here is there's a huge
>> potential
>> for online music, and the industry is doing everything it can to stop
>> all
>> advances, both legal and illegal, while offering up no alternatives of
>> their
>> own.
>>
>> - --
>> Michael Winslow Czeiszperger
>> czei at webperformanceinc d o t c o m
>
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