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[David Matusiak <matusiak AT speakeasy.net>]

Michael --

i see how this applies to your particular situation with the opt-in mailing
lists, but my complaint(s) has/have nothing to do with being on any mailing
list (not to my knowledge, anyway). i even do a fairly good job of 
unsubscribing
myself from lists i don't want to be on.

the problems i'm having are people scouring the net for any resume and sending
me commercial email without my interest/consent/knowledge/opting-in/etc.

i have never posted my resume on monster.com or any of its billion derivatives
amd the only online copy of my resume resides on ibiblio - not exactly a 
common
place for "high-traffic job shopping" to take place (a la dice.com).

also, one obvious omission from my earlier posts is the idea that "responding 
in
any way to SPAM just alerts the SPAMmers that they have reached an active
mailbox."

while i see the advantages of services like spamcop.net (i am not a
user of this service), i wonder just how effective they really are
-and-
if you are not simply participating (more so) in the propogation of junk mail
across the internet. (i.e. instead of deleting one spam, a half-dozen more 
have
been spawned).

either way goes, it is the 21st century and already one of our best 
technologies
has been encumbered by the classic social idiot; some thick-headed fool who
thinks they can "get rich quick" by hopping on the latest fad.

thoughts?
dave m.
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Michael S Czeiszperger wrote:

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> On Thursday 13 December 2001 12:42 pm, you wrote:
> > TaB -- why aren't we "class-action'ing" their asses RIGHT NOW?
> >
>
> The main thing that fuels a class action suit is the ability to punish the
> perpetrator by getting a monetary award. The people who try to sell viagra
> through unsolicited email are mostly losers with no money, so there's no
> financial incentive.
>
> I also really hate spam, and even use www.spamcop.net to filter my email, 
> but
> also hate how its tainted even the legitmate use of email for business
> purposes. As an example, we have three email lists on our web site that are
> voluntary-- customers or anyone can join the mailing lists. However, when I
> send out an announcement, I invariably receive a spate of horrible emails
> accusing the company of spamming.
>
> To get on the list customers have to first fill out a form, and then respond
> in email confirming they wanted to join, so there's no way to accidentally
> get on our list. Joining a mailing list and then simply not wanting to be on
> it anymore is not a reason to shout "spammer".
>
> - --
> Michael S Czeiszperger
> czei AT webperformanceinc.com