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["Andrew Phillips" <aphillips AT buildscape.com>]

I know I haven't emailed on this list yet but I'd like to put my two cents
in.

I'm originally from Westchester County, a few minutes outside of NYC. For me
this is very hard because although all my family has been located I know
many people who were inside the WTC when this happened and friends/family of
friends are still missing.

The fact that we've responded in a non-military manner thus far proves that
it has not worked. If you do not respond militarily nations that harbor
and/or support these groups will continue to do so. Sanctions as we've seen
from examples as Cuba, Iraq, North Korea do not work.

We honestly have brought a lot of this upon ourselves if you look at the
causes for this hatred. I'm not saying we deserve it in any manor especially
with attacks against civilians but we've caused the hatred against us by
people like Hussein and Bin Lauden by supporting them and then leaving them
to die... its a quick way to make someone an enemy. Out CIA and other
government agencies need to really look at who they're supporting and the
'lesser of two evils' mentality has not worked thus far.

The only response that would be responsible for our country would be a
military response, and believe me I am against war so that is not an easy
decision for me.

-Andrew Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Winslow [mailto:maria.winslow AT dexxtra.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:51 AM
To: InterNetWorkers
Subject: [internetworkers] Re: Dali Lama


I understand how Robert feels. I lived in New York for a couple of years,
and it is
absolutely inconceivable to me that this could have happened. I know
everyone is at least a
bit familiar with the city, but if you live there you understand just how
massive the WTC
really is. The Empire State building is tall, but elegant, not massive. The
towers were
ever-present, and frequently used to orient yourself when you exit a
building. You always
knew which way is south. Those towers were more reliable than the moon. Now
that it's gone,
it's easy to forget just how much bigger it was than the surrounding
skyline. I've been
glued to CNN, and I think they are broadcasting from around 34th St. That
means that those
cameras are quite a long way from the WTC, about 4 miles. It is unbelievable
to me that
what we are seeing is from a filter of distance, and I cannot imagine what
it was like
closer.

I have to say that I am feeling a taste for war, but that our old notions of
war are
outdated in this situation. I believe this is really a CIA problem, and we
will find a CIA
solution. (Never thought I'd say that...)

Maria

Robert Weeks wrote:

> I've seen a number of these emails in the last 24 hours and frankly I find
> them disturbing. We have responded non-violently to terrorism in the past,
> working through our judicial system to try to capture and prosecute the
> perpetrators of terrorism while the death tolls from these attacks have
only
> increased.
>
> We've had a non violent response to:
>
> €the World Trade Center bombing in 1993
> €the bombing in 1995 of a Saudi National Guard training school in Riyadh
> €the truck bomb in 1996 that destroyed part of a housing complex used by
> American Air Force personnel in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia
> €the 1998 embassy bombings in Africa
> €the attack on the Navy destroyer Cole last October
>
> And these are just some of the terrorist actions attributed to Osama bin
> Laden and his allies over the last 10 years.
>
> The people who committed these acts were insane enough to give their own
> lives to carrying out their plans of inflicting pain, death and suffering
on
> innocent American civilians, do you think they would understand diplomacy
or
> a non-violent approach to resolving this situation?
>
> They declared war upon *us* through their actions. If we do not respond in
> kind the attacks are only going to get worse and more innocent people will
> die.
>
> At least five people I grew up with are missing in the World Trade Center,
> others I knew were injured or just escaped injury. I have friends who
can't
> go back to their homes. Even if you do not personally know people who were
> injured or killed in this senseless act of cowardice, this is still going
to
> affect each and everyone of us from the world economic turmoil that will
> surely follow.
>
> So Dali Lama, just what is the appropriate response???? Seems like we
broke
> the circle of violence by reacting with violence to some of our past
> aggressors. You don't hear much about kamikazes these days.......
>
> I may not be politically correct, but this turn the other cheek stuff is
> making me ill.
>
> Robert
>
> Ps: I really *am* turning into my father as I get older - its scary.......
>
> On 9/13/01 7:58 AM, "Thomas Beckett" <thomas AT tbeckett.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is the Dalai Lama's letter to Bush.  I must concur with his last
> > paragraph:
>
> > It may seem presumptuous on my part, but I personally believe we need to
> > think seriously whether a violent action is the right thing to do and in
> > the greater interest of the nation and people in the long run. I believe
> > violence will only increase the cycle of violence.
>
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