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Since some of you don't read Fox, you might have missed Al Gore's 
backpedalling...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/22/report-al-gore-reverses-view-ethanol-blames-politics-previous-support/?test=latestnews

> Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore 
> <http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/al-gore.htm#r_src=ramp> 
> reportedly has had a change of heart on ethanol, telling a conference 
> on green energy in Europe that he only supported tax breaks for the 
> alternative fuel to pander to farmers in his home state of Tennessee 
> and the first-in-the-nation caucuses state of Iowa.


Ok, so list, what about blue green algae...what's y'alls take on that?  
Better than  corn based ethanol?

B






On 11/23/2010 12:19 PM, Lynda wrote:
> I'm talking about biofuels.  Growing the corn,etc. takes petroleum 
> products. Lots of fertilizers which are petroleum based.  Tractors on 
> the farm.   They still have to be hauled to the plants.  The 
> processing plants are run on petroleum products.  Then the resulting 
> fuel is hauled, by truck which is more petroleum products, to the end 
> use.
>
> They are assuming right.  Farmers aren't big on natural means of 
> growing. They use the same thing they've always used which is 
> petroleum based.
>
> So, no, corn is not a good fuel.  In fact, corn, as currently grown, 
> isn't a good anything!  And the biofuel currently available costs more 
> in petroleum products than going to the corner gas station and filling 
> up on fossil fuel now.
>
> And, as I said, there are much better ways to go and hemp is one of 
> them. And harvesting "stuff" out of the ocean is NOT!
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <crazygardens AT verizon.net>
>
>
> I assume that you mean petroleum requires lot of chemicals and needs 
> to be
> hauled a gazillion miles to be processed. When I first read it, I 
> though you
> meant biofuels. lol That are some of the beauties of biofules. Lots less
> chemicals additives required and processing can be done in small plants
> scattered all over the country near the grow points. No more centrally 
> located
> processing like petroleum and far less chemicals. I think I get what the
> artical is trying to say about the corn husks. If you want nice corn 
> plant
> matter, you have to enrich the soil because corn is such a heavy 
> feeder. Just
> enrich it with animal manure and compost from the non usable parts of 
> other
> plants. I think they are assuming that you are going to use petroleum
> fertilizer to enrich your bio fuel crops. I agree with you about hemp
> production. The original deisel engines were designed to run on fuel 
> from hemp
> oil. I have noticed a lot of disinformation going around about alternate
> energies. Much of this disinformation comes from plugging biofuel 
> sources into
> the petroleum process loop. People need to get their mind out of the 
> box when
> it comes to alternate fuels.
>
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