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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Orange colored zucchini !!! Quick PATENT it if it tastes good !!  LOL
 
Romas,,,,, I got them because they are supposed to be good for making tomato 
paste, and for desert conditions they suggest the smaller tomato types.
 
I just saw a commercial on TV for the Farmer's Market (I think up in 
Alburqueque), 2# of Romas for .99 cents !!!  Have no idea if that is a good 
price or a bad price,,,,,,,, as I don't know what 2# or Romas looks like 
LOL...............  I know what a pound of butter looks like.
 
Oh well, time to heat up the boiling water.
 
 
 
 

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:




You won't get immediate results with the egg shells.  However, for future 
reference, put the egg shells in your compost pile and let them rot a year 
or so.

There are dozens upon dozens of tomato plants now called Roma.  It is now a 
generic term for Italian type paste/sauce tomatoes.  All it means now is a 
shape.

We get some interesting hybrids in our volunteers.  I think this year we 
have pumpkin/zuchini crosses.  Plants are zucchini in type but the "fruit" 
looks like giant Martian weird shaped things that are now turning orange. 
These should be interesting to try <g>

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>


Ahh,,, BER, ok,,, yes that is what they look like. I went back out and 
checked all the plants. I did find a couple green ones on the WM tomatoes 
also. And re-checked the plants grown from seed, and other tomatoes don't 
have any problem at all.

Calcium deficiency? Possibly caused by salty soil (which I'm pretty sure is 
an issue here. I know what to do for the salty conditions next year.. but 
for calcium.......... can I just beg everyone here to save me eggs shells, 
grind them up and sprinkle that is the soil near tomato plants?


Basically no rain here either, although one day there was enough to soak the 
top 1/2" of soil.

Do they make Roma hybrids? I don't want a hybrid, that's for sure. Heirloom 
is the quest for this year's shopping list.

I'm thinking the one spaghetti squash seed I planted must be one of those 
not true to parent things....... I have 3 squash that are huge (green 
w/light green spots) 12" long/6" wide, and in another section of the plant, 
I have 2 smaller 7" long light green squash that look like what I bought in 
the grocery store. If I can figure out when the big ones are ripe.... I'll 
taste them anyway and find out what the expirement yielded...

I just pulled up some of the dead stuff, and planted a few seeds of some 
other things. It's a week past the last planting date, but hoping that later 
in the year we won't have an early frost.



--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Sage Austin | Eureka! Design <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:




The blackened end could also be what's called tomato end rot. You can
read more about it at
http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/tomato/2000082444023571.html
We see that here in our desert, too.

All of our tomatoes are cracked here due to the heat and drought, even
though they are drip irrigated. Bev's description is good, although we
really haven't had rain...we are just irrigating beyond how the heat has
toughened the skin.

I wouldn't save the seed from the WalMart tomatoes unless you know they
were heirloom, but chances are they are F1 hybrids and won't produce
true to the parent.

--Sage
Way Out in Texas
(still reading, but too busy to post these days)



Leslie wrote:
> THE GOOD
>
> 4 Roma Tomato plants purchased at Walmart..... are producing unbelievable 
> amounts of tomatoes. I've picked over 150 already, and haven't made a dent 
> in the number of visible tomatoes in varying stages of ripening (and more 
> babies keep hatching). For the most part, these are perfect tomatoes. No 
> cracks, no blemishes. The leaves are super green, very thick in foliage, 
> and the plant is and has been growing larger and larger... No bugs that 
> I'm worried about. A morning spider web is usually all I see. They pretty 
> much get the exact same amount of water every day (they are on a timer).
>
>
> THE BAD
> I threw some hybrid seeds in the ground. These are also growing 
> unbelievably well, and I had to cage them. They are almost 5' tall. Good 
> green foliage, thick, but not as thick as the Romas. They do get a small 
> amount of filtered shade from the giant sunflowers. This is a larger 
> variety of tomato, like a beefsteak size. These have green tomatoes on 
> them, with the first one now ripening. The only bug I have seen was an 
> unusual green catepillar (unusual, as it looked like a prehistoric 
> monster, with a curved horn on it's head, and legs only on the front half 
> of the body, with the back half of it's body curled under like a snail... 
> LOL). This plant is also gets irrigation, pretty much same amount every 
> day.
>
> However.... when I checked the first tomatoe, which is just starting to 
> turn color,,,, I noticed one crack on each side of the tomato. What causes 
> that?
>
>
> THE UGLY
>
> I threw Roma tomato seeds in the ground right next to the 4 purchased 
> plants. Those also grew, have lots of thick foliage (no yellow leaves, no 
> spots, no tan, nothing - the plants look very healthy) and the first of 
> the tomatos are starting to ripen. This is on the same timed irrigation 
> line as the other Romas. I haven't used any chemicals, and the only 
> fertilizer was well composted horse manure that I worked into the ground 
> last year.
>
> But when I brought the tomatoes inside, on the end of the tomato (opposite 
> end to where it attaches to the plant).......... it is brown to black. The 
> whole end of the tomato is useless, but the rest of the tomato is fine. I 
> ate the other half and my taste test is no indicator, but it tasted fine.
>
> 1. What causes the blackend /browed distal end?
>
> 2. Can I can the good part of the tomato after cutting off the end?
>
> 3. If this is some kind of virus or disease do I need to remove the 
> affected plant(s).
>
> 4. If 3 is a yes........ is this something that will affect the seeds in 
> the Walmart plants (since I want to save seeds for next year).
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> I haven't been able to find a pic on the internet yet that matches what 
> I'm seeing.
>
>
>
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Then get together with a bunch of folks who don't agree and "pad" the area
outside the town hall.  Make sure the news cameras are there and let them
know you're there because of how he pads the audience.

If it is something you are passionate about, send the letter certified with
a return receipt requested.  Then the Congress-boob himself has to sign for
it.  They HATE a paper trail!

Gather like minded folks and form a committee.  Give yourself an impressive
name and make sure you pepper the papers with "announcements" from your
committee.  Rational, well-thought out letters.  Not rants that sound like
crazy people wrote them.  Fisk the bills that you are against and give
bulleted responses to the problem areas.

If you still get no response, start a recall committee (every state is
different as to the rules) and let the press know you are forming such a
committee.

The ol' squeeky wheel gets the grease.  The important thing is to always
sound highly educated and above the unwashed masses.  If not, they make you
look like a loon ala Cindy Shehan or however the heck you spell her name.

Oh, and it always helps to have "names" on your committe even if they never
do anything.  We got lawyers, a Supreme Court clerk, a couple of doctors,
businesses owners, etc.

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>


Got any tips on how/what?

Mostly the response I get from politicians is a form letter reply, and often
one that has nothing to do with what I've written them about. It is as if
they all have a rubber stamped canned answer that has come on down from the
top.

I just got word that one of the politicians is going to have a town hall,
but only to people who "have been vetted"......in other words who don't have
an opposing opinion??? That is insane. Pad the audience with only supporters
and make it look like most people agree.........


--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:



Of course, now it is back to "normal," but it is going to take a whole bunch
of folks to do what we did! People think they can't do anything about the
folks at the federal level and they are WRONG! More need to figure that
out!

Lynda




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