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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Bev,
 
Please consider tossing a recycled $1 Dollar bill into the compost pile along 
with a recycled $10 Dollar bill.  With a little luck you will get some really 
nice hybrids volunteering,,, multiple of $9.00 bills would be really 
nice......... :-)  
 


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--- On Sun, 3/8/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] tomatoes in compost
To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 5:15 PM


bobf wrote:

> 
> Myabe this is normal, but I've never had volunteer tomatoes from
> compost, before.  One year, I had a very nice crop of "small
> potatoes" from a compost pile; but never tomatoes.  Huh ???


I've had all kinds of volunteers from a cold compost pile.  Tomatoes, 
peppers, tomatillos(all the time) onions, garlic, potatoes, and even a 
broccoli plant (from thinning).  Of course, all my kitchen waste is 
composted, so hopefully one day I will find a coffee tree or a lemon 
tree. <vbg>
It probably won't grow true to type, but there is nothing wrong with 
trying it out and seeing what happens.
-- 
I am having an out-of-money experience.
http://erthnsky.blogspot.com/
EarthNSky Farm, Northwest Georgia, USA
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Made my first batch - it was as good as I remembered it being.� And so fast 
and easy !
�
So good, I made a couple more batches for the family Sunday dinner today.... 
not a crumb left!





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"If government couldn’t see a problem coming, they can’t be expected to know 
how to fix the problem." ~ John Loeffler, 03/06/2009 
  
  
For anyone who uses gasoline, diesel, nat gas, or purchases anything that has 
been transported or made of plastics, etc.............  
  
I've transcribed portions of the 3rd hour 3/6/09 radio show from  
www.financialsense.com that relates to energy and the current 
administration's action and potential effect on our future U.S. energy 
supplies.  It's a bit rambling at times, but good information.   Note the 
section on Salazar.
  
 
Puplava:  “President Barrack Obama has signaled that Canada’s oil sands 
industry should not be granted an exemption from strict regulation to limit 
emissions of greenhouse gases.  And if Canada goes along, and remember what 
was it, about a week ago or two weeks ago Obama met with Canada ’s Prime 
Minister – his stance could add an already greater cost factor of developing 
the vast resources in the Alberta tar sands, which is increasingly regarded 
as one of North America ’s most secure sources of energy.  Especially since 
we are losing imports from Mexico because production from Cantarell has 
dropped and what this article was talking about, at 18% of the total, Canada 
is the single largest supplier of crude oil and refined products to the U.S. 
and there are legitimate concerns being raised of that being negatively 
affected.  And this is regarding the cap and trade system that Obama wants to 
put in, could materially raise the production costs
 for Canadian oil sands.  So this is one to really keep an eye on.” 
  
Puplava:  “I got this in an email from somebody who is in the oil and gas 
business.  I’m just going to read from this email.” 
  
Email:  “I’m from Oklahoma and I have many friends in the oil and gas 
business who I grew up with.  We are unilaterally shutting down our 
exploration for new oil and gas resources everywhere that is inside or 
adjacent to the continental U.S.    The greatest concern is what is now 
happening in the Gulf of Mexico .  All new wells planned have been shut down 
and this is at the same time that the U.S. is allowing China to drill all 
over the basin.   With the planned cap and trade rules, look for the cost of 
everything related to energy, food, electricity, transport to explode – this 
while we are in the worst recession in modern history.  The beneficiaries of 
the new tax plan will have to suffer the most under this rule because 
gasoline costs could go up $1.37 a gallon.” 
  
Puplava:  “And this is from another piece that just came out this week.  With 
the stroke of a pen, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar cancelled 77 Utah oil and 
gas leases that had gone thru seven years of study, negotiations and land use 
planning.  In an instant, he eliminated hundreds of jobs, terminated access 
to vital oil and gas deposits and deprived taxpayers of millions in lease, 
rent, royalty and tax revenues.  The cancelled leases represent 1/3 of the 
acreage estimated to contain enough oil to fuel 3 million cars and heat 14 
million homes for 15 years.  Secretary Salazar is also going after other 
areas, such as oil, gas, coal, shale and uranium.  And they talk about in 
2008, the Interior Department’s inventory of energy resources totaled 163 
million acres of public lands that have now been taken off limits to the oil 
and gas business.  That is more than the total area of Montana and Wyoming 
combined.  And these areas that are represented
 by this represent 62% of the oil and 41% of the natural gas in our nation’s 
on-shore resources.  And that is not talking about another 30% that has been 
taken off off-shore.  Now here is the interesting factor.  " 
  
"At the same time that we are doing this, if you take a look at, and we have 
talked about this on this program before, and it is very very important to 
understand in terms of what happened after the oil embargo of the 70s.  I’ve 
done several programs on this but I need to bring this up because there is a 
critical point here the markets are really missing.  And that is after the 
oil embargo of 1973, up until then, oil contracts were priced on long term 
contracts whether your supplier was Saudi Arabi, an oil company, but usually 
a national oil company in the middle east or let’s say in Venezuela .  These 
were 10 – 20 year contracts.  And because they were long term contracts as a 
source of supply it was very easy to embargo a country, which is what 
happened to us in 1973.   So in order to reduce that risk of an embargo, the 
U.S. embarked on trying to find alternative sources of energy other than the 
Middle East .  So we started going to South
 American countries for oil.  We went to Canada .  We went to Mexico .  We 
started going to Africa .  At the same time, as we went to these new sources 
of supply which competed with OPEC, we began to buy energy from these new 
sources of supply in the spot market.  At the same time, at the end of the 
70s, two major sources of supply came into the market – the north slopes of 
Alaska and the North Sea .  So we had not only new sources of supply in 
Canada and Mexico , Latin American and Africa, and then also from the North 
Sea and from the north slopes of Alaska .  So what happened is, the oil 
markets changed from fixed contracts and moved over to being priced in the 
spot market on exchanges dominated in London and especially the United States 
.  So what we did is create a virtual oil pool, so that when the U.S. got hit 
by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, we could go into the spot market and buy in 
the virtual oil pool and begin having oil shipped to
 the United States within 30 days." 
  
"Now if you look at what has happened in the last 2-3 years, this is a very 
subtle change and the markets do not realize the impact of this.  For 
example, China has signed a long term fixed contract with Venezuela for 
300,000 barrels a day.  Those 300,000 barrels a day used to be shipped to the 
United States .  Now that oil is not coming back to the United States .  It 
is going to China .  China just signed a deal with the Russians where they 
gave the Russians 25 billion dollars in order to secure and lock up 20 years 
of oil supply of 300,000 barrels a day.  So there is another 300,000 barrels 
a day that have been taken out of the virtual oil pool that China is locking 
up.  China is also going to Venezuela .  They just injected 8 billion dollars 
of investment with Hugo Chavez and they are going to buy even more.  They are 
trying to lock up another couple hundred thousand barrels of oil which will 
be oil taken from the United States and Chavez
 has said he is reducing his exports to the United States .  They are 
dropping each year.  Then you also take a look at what China is also doing, [ 
China ] is taking positions.  [ China ] has just bought a couple of Canadian 
oil sand companies.  And the state and the new government stimulus program, 
the government is going to be lending money to China ’s three largest oil 
companies to go out and make acquisitions." 
  
"And so, at the same time that China, India are going to major producers and 
locking up supply, and when they lock up that supply that means the virtual 
oil pool shrinks and shrinks by an equivalent amount of those barrels, at the 
same time we are going to our largest supplier, Canada, and trying to 
increase the cost of produce energy in the oil sands, and secondarily we have 
now just put a stop to new plans to drill in the Gulf of Mexico and we’ve 
delayed that by nine months, and we are shutting down fossil fuel production 
in this country.  At the same time we are going to be losing exports into 
this country from Venezuela , and the Mexican government just reported that 
Cantarell’s production is down another 8%, they are down to 700, so we’re 
going to be losing 1.5 million barrels from Mexico .  We may be losing some 
production from Canada .  We’re losing  production from the Middle East .  
We’re losing production from the Russians.  So
 we’re [the U.S.] shutting down [production] while these resources are being 
locked up by these other countries.” 
  
“John, I mean this is absolutely insane.  And I see these reports and I read 
them and it is like the inmates are running the asylum.  What in the heck are 
we doing about our energy security.  I’ve never seen anything this crazy in 
my life.” 
  
  
John Loeffler:  “And of course this is going to come home to roost in very, 
very short order.  But I agree with you, we are running in the wrong 
direction in almost everything.” 
  
  
This country could have a ton of shale oil in the ground, but if the 
government doesn't let us bring it up, what good is it?    If the current 
admin continues down this road, expect rising oil prices again, IMO.




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On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Don  Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net> wrote:
> I hope to make it to Asheville this summer and to Brevard. �My son runs the
> Advance Auto Parts store there so if you stop by, look for a tall dark
> haired guy going about 2X faster than anyone around him.
>
> As for the beer, I just dug out the Papazian book and I think I will so the
> easy first recipe.
>
> Don Bowen �KI6DIU

By "I'll do the same" I mean I'll tell you what I'm brewing. I'll
probably start back in with a lager. I really enjoyed Imperial while
in Costa Rica and can't buy it locally so I'm going to try to recreate
that flavor. I think a large part of a beers character is in the water
and I'm hoping our well water will help it along. (It has helped with
other brews). I think I've read a James post here where he sprouts his
own malt- I'm not that talented but I avoid the canned malt syrups.

And if you are interested I'd be glad to meet in Brevard or Asheville
for a visit.

Warren