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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
  • To: <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>, <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] pigs
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:29:28 -0800

They LOVE a real stiff bristled brush for a good back scratching!

I wouldn't count on them coming back. They are pretty smart and can be trained but they also have a mind of their own. If they decide they are going south and you want them to go north, figure they'll go south, period!

We raise them up here in the late fall or early spring because of the heat of summer. Late fall works real well for us because of the acorns. They LOVE acorns.


Just a note about the manure tea. In China they feed farm raised fish manure teas (they call it fermented manure) and they has been quite a bit of trouble with various diseases in the fish imported from those farms because of parasites and various other pathogens. So, I'd compost it first.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>


Thanks,

Permanent mud hole - not likely in the desert.
Hmmmm, rooting up things, might be good idea - for large areas I want to "weed"... LOL.
Definitely won't forget what they are raised for.
I don't think I could raise them in a trailer - seems mean.

One of my brother's comical statements when he heard me discussing various locations w/dad - he wants to put them some 1200 feet away from the closest water line,,,, when I pointed out the obvious issue with that,,,, he says not to worry about them needing water, they will drink when it rains... Ya right, like that happens a lot here in the desert.... not even once a month most of the year.... Course he didn't have enough rain where he had them either, so needless to say, his pigs did not exactly thrive, although he did shower them with love, they were severely malnourished.

Speaking of shower, do they like being "scrubbed" when getting a bath, or just getting wet and then rolling in the dirt?

I was also thinking of using the pig manure (mixed with other manure) to make "manure tea"... have you tried that for the veggies?

If hand tamed, can you turn them loose in a large area and then convince them to come back to a penned area easily, like you can do with chickens, horses, etc?

One of my neighbors in FL had the most gigantic sow I ever saw.... they built her a grassy pen area that was surrounded by a concrete wall about 3 feet high or so - I figure there was a reason for having such a strong fence for her............. LOL. Not to mention that wild pig who kept trying to bust the walls down in the barn.


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] pigs
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 8:31 PM


Leslie wrote:


At some point, I want to raise some pigs, and I'm wondering if there
is anything in particular I should think about for site selection.
And, is the pig area super smelly, if so how far away from my mom's
house in particular should I be planning,,,, I think she wants to
forget some of her farming roots.... i.e. the smell of pigs....


Just like everything else, there are a dozen ways or more to raise pigs.
In these parts, people pen them up with hog panel or run low electric
fencing, or raise them on a wooden deck. If you go with the last option,
a small wooden floored trailer works well, and you can take them right
to the processor if that if what you decide to do, no loading antics.
Some people have pastured pigs, just here, most folks keep them penned.
We raise a few pigs every other year or so. You want to raise two or
more at a time, because they will eat competitively and gain weight
faster than a single pig in a pen. Pigs are smart, strong, and like
human companionship. They can quickly endear themselves to you, so we
always name them after food...Moo Shoo, Bacon, Jerk, etc. so you don't
forget why you have them. We raise pigs in a 16x16 pen made of hog
panels bolted into a square, and I just moved the pen around. One of my
neighbors raises his on a landscape trailer, another uses electric high
tensile. Pigs root and dig a lot...they are natures tillers and will
till up any area you put them in. If you don't want them to dig, you
have to ring their noses. The deck method prevents digging, the
electric fencing method almost mandates ringing noses. If you move pigs
around, they really don't smell that much. If you go with the
trailer/deck method, you just wash off the boards/floor. Personally, I
think pigs are healthier if they are on dirt and can root up to their
hearts content. They eat grubs and roots and grass and weeds and stuff
and I believe it makes them healthier, and of course, they really enjoy
it. I figure if you gotta live in a pen, you should have some fun. I
also provide bowling balls and other large toys(like a tire) to push
around for entertainment and amusement. They like to dig, but they also
like to be clean and appreciate a good shower with the hose. They
absolutely need clean water to drink.
We also find that the smell is less of an issue if we raise them in the
winter. I have a large plastic water tank in a metal that is opened up
like a huge doghouse. We toss a bale of hay in there and the pigs
nestle into the hay. The tank/pighouse gets rolled around as the pen is
moved. As for site selection, anything you might use as a future
garden, a nice level area, or if you don't plan on moving the pen,
choose a spot where you want a pond. If you don't move pigs around
their poop their feet will create a mud that will compact into a nice
pond. this is the way the old timers used to seal ponds-they would run
pigs where they wanted a pond. So, if you go with the movable pen
method, you really do have the move the pen else you will create a
permanent mudhole.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure the fencing is good and sturdy.
There are several people on the list who have also raised pigs, so just
ask away..
Too bad Granddad isn't here to post his classic "I hate chasing
pigs"
story. Loved that one!

Bev



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