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[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

See Lynda; you are (I'm tired of this expression) 'thinking outside the box'; 
you are saying we should do these things the 'smart' way -- which is what I 
wrote.  I haven't thought through a lot of the details like you have, but I 
know the 'one size fits all'--in every locale--all of the time ; just is not 
right.

  Instead it is 'easy', and rewards the same people who have already 
implemented schemes that don't properly work.  You can bet that the folks who 
created the economic disaster with "the big dig' in Boston, will be right 
back at the trough for more slop with this next round of government money; 
just like the complete failure of a U.S. auto industry is slurping their slop 
today..................

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--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new Peter Schiff interview, 
> immeninent demi
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 11:16 AM
> That would be me, Bob.  You can't get any more rural
> than I am. We don't 
> even have mail delivery!  In order to get mail you have to
> have a post 
> office box in town.  No newspapers unless you drive into
> town.  No UPS, no 
> FedEx.  No cable.  No DSL.  No television with an antenae.
> 
> My little "town," counting the whole valley and,
> I think most of the deer, 
> has a population of 1800 people.  We are an hour away from
> any type of 
> "city" and it is only 3500 people.  The big city
> (80,000) is two hours away. 
> That is IF you can get there as we are frequently, in the
> winter, well, 
> except this one, snowed in.
> 
> And, ya know, even in the boonies, the type rural
> you're talking about, 
> folks
> *could* carpool and they don't.  It's all about
> "my" car, blah, blah, blah.
> And, even in the beyond freaking sticks where I live, there
> IS public
> transportation!  Folks don't use it.  Period and they
> could to get to and
> from work.  They'd have to run it more frequently than
> they do now for some 
> jobs but it is a real possibility.  Right now you can catch
> the thing at 6 
> a.m. which is plenty of time to get to where most of the
> jobs are but the 
> last run might have to run later as it leaves over the
> other side of the 
> Summit at 5 which would be too early for most jobs.
> 
> One of the things folks need to look at is a different type
> of public
> transit.  People seem to think BIG Gilligs and what they
> need to think is
> little jitneys AND both the transit system and the
> employers need to rethink
> time tables.  Companies could do more flex time and thus
> allow for the
> contingency of the busses running late, etc.  And the
> transit system could
> realign their schedules to fit more around the operating
> hours of the local
> businesses.
> 
> Bart and Golden Gate transit in CA both run WAY outside the
> city so that
> people *could* use them IF they choose to even if they live
> a good ways out
> in the sticks.  They even built carparks all along the
> lines just for that
> purpose, so folks can drive to the access point and park
> their cars.
> 
> IMNSHO, more companies AND the government need to look at
> 4/10s with
> alternating weekends off.  That would also cut down on the
> amount of
> miles/hours/$$ folks have to spend getting to and from
> work.
> 
> It is VERY doable, folks just need to get out of the
> comfort zone and think
> outside the box!
> 
> Plus, ya do know that the trucking industry is behind a lot
> of the lack of 
> funding for upkeep and building of new rail lines???  We
> have a whole rail 
> line running up and down the state but the feds won't
> cut loose with any of 
> the tax money to help repair it or replace it in parts
> because of the 
> lobbying by the trucking folks.  The trucking folks like
> the rail being out 
> of commission because that means more business for them! 
> AND, it means a 
> whole lot more cost for the consumer!
> 
> Lynda
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bobf" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> 
> 
> > Okay, now I am not against public transit, I think --
> done right-- it 
> > could be smart.  But again, what about people who are
> more rural than you 
> > or I ; like where roxanne or sage or gene or my
> parents , live.  There is 
> > very little chance of building public transit to all
> of the rural hamlets 
> > throughout a country this large.  My question might
> have been better put 
> > by asking how do we make up for those people who must
> continue to drive 
> > above average distances, from need, not want?
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Marie McHarry
> <mmcharry AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Marie McHarry <mmcharry AT gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new
> Peter Schiff interview, 
> >> immeninent demi
> >> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com,
> homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 7:58 AM
> >> Bob wonders how the raising o gas prices elps
> rural people
> >> (of which I
> >> am one). It's pretty straightfoward. Back
> before we had
> >> two cars in
> >> every garage we had light rail. It will never come
> back
> >> unless it's
> >> cheaper than driving. Right now we have private
> buses from
> >> a couple of
> >> small towns to Springfield. The same is true for
> >> Peoria's Caterpillat
> >> north of me. Without incentive people don't
> change, but
> >> ewxpensive gas
> >> will bring change.
> >
> >
> >
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