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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

I suspect that many have not given that very Libertarian point of view much 
thought.
 
Most do not realize for example that people who have no children, still have 
to pay "school tax" on their real estate tax.... thereby subsidizing part of 
the cost of those children who go to public schools.
 
It is the same principal you are talking about here.... That people who live 
in urban and rural areas who pay road or fuel tax are subsidizing the cost of 
the people who use government owned buses and trains, jitneys, etc.   If 
there was no subsidy coming from people who never or rarely use public 
transportation - the cost per ride would be significantly higher.  I.E. if a 
one-way ride on a bus is currently $1, without subsidies it might be $3.  
(not real numbers,,, just an example).  
 
The problem is, as you know, that people always want something for either 
nothing, or for less than it really costs.  They want someone else to pay for 
it.
 
At least people who live near public transporation have the opportunity to 
use it.... but those who live in places like where I live where there is NO 
public transportation, are forced to subsidize a part of the cost of those 
who do have public transportation in their areas with ZERO opportunity of 
being able to use it.  I would have to drive 80-90 miles before coming across 
a public bus and much further for a public train.    And yet, I still and 
forced via taxation to subsidize the cost of public transporation.
 
 
 
Someone else mentioned trains.... well trains are privately owned, and the 
rails the trains ride on are privately owned.  Sections of rails, of course, 
are owned by different companies, so they each charge each other for "usage". 
 
 
The roads are owned by government, who charges road "usage tax" (for lack of 
a better term) directly to trucks companies, and fuel tax on cars/trucks.  
OK, that is somewhat fair, since roads have to be maintained and those that 
use road should pay for the upkeep.  
 
Although of course there are reasons to make roads privately owned - a 
nightmare logistically - but that's a whole 'nother issue.
 
 


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Fear & Loathing , new Peter Schiff interview, 
immeninent demi
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 1:39 PM

Exactly Bev, so why should 'you' be penalized so that 'I' can
ride the train.?

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--- On Sun, 1/11/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:


> I live 17 miles from town.  We were very close, when gas was
> over $4/gallon, to either walking to work, or biking or
> hitchhiking....very close.  


      
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I don't see it as being penalized...I see it as me reluctantly doing
what I should already be doing...like a kid being disciplined.
Discipline is not really punishment.  Penalize means that I did
something wrong.  Discipline means I am training to do what is right.

Bev

bobf wrote:
> Exactly Bev, so why should 'you' be penalized so that 'I' can ride
> the train.?
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> --- On Sun, 1/11/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
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>> I live 17 miles from town.  We were very close, when gas was over
>> $4/gallon, to either walking to work, or biking or
>> hitchhiking....very close.
>

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