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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Can't argue w/bankruptcy.  Effects will be widespread.  I'd bet a lot of 
government (local/state/federal) pensions are invested in their bonds and 
paper, not to mention other pension plans & mutual funds.  They should play 
the music "Wipe-out" in the background if they announce bankruptcy filings....


I basically haven't looked at new cars in 2 decades, so I don't know what is 
being put out now.  I do know I would never buy a Ford truck again, as mine 
has been a headache for the duration, as have been the Ford dealerships I've 
dealt with.  18 years later, discovered a tranny problem was actually a 
warranty item from about 1 year after I bought the truck, and I had the truck 
in constantly for tranny problems.  Ditto on other issues.  Another problem - 
I had the truck in numberous times - something wrong in the front end, none 
of the Ford dealers could find the problem.  Local NM mechanic found it in 5 
mins,,,, a $40 part.  The list of issues is long.  If I hit the lotto, and if 
Toyota or whomever, makes a big enough truck/engine I switch in a heartbeat.  
Although I rarely drive, and use my scooter whenever possible for local 
driving.  That actually is fun, and at 90-100mpg,,,  I like even better. 





--- On Thu, 12/18/08, bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
From: bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] hyper v depr debate continues
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org, cayadopi AT yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 2:34 PM

It's all BS.  All three companies make good trucks.  Ford makes one good car
of which I am aware (Fusion).  Let them (all 3) go Chap 11, refit to build
trucks and maybe one 2 or 3 total cars that could compete with the quality of
the forreign cars.  And, if workers want a Union , they need to dump UAW , and
start one without the financial and political corruption.  Some enitites are
just beyond help..................................

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--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] hyper v depr debate continues
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:25 PM
> I always get doubles from you too... but I'm wondering
> now if it is only somehow related to a reply, since you
> don't always have doubles.  Clearly you aren't with
> yahoo.
> 
> I'm replying to this one email of two; this one came in
> from homestead lists...............  the other came in from
> your email.  Let me know if you receive one or two replies.
> 
> 
> 
> I suspect Ford is plagued by the same problems as the other
> three, although maybe they can delay for a while.  
> 
> Wall Street has been cannabilizing itself for about a year,
> maybe this is just a similar move on Car Street... Ford
> maneuvering itself to cannabilize the others, although how
> all that works out is beyond me, a handout from the Fed to
> buy up the other 2 ????
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, EarthNSky
> <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] hyper v depr debate continues
> To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 1:39 PM
> 
> 
> Leslie wrote:
> > In other news.... Bush considers an "orderly
> bankruptcy" for the
> Big 
> > 3............ Chaulk that one up that for the
> depression camp....
> 
> Two, not three. Latest is that Ford will be okay unless the
> economy
> really tanks... They are doing what they should be doing,
> tightening the
> belt and selling assets for cash.
> The Chevy dealership in town is rumored to be closing the
> first of the
> year.  The Dodge dealership has been gone for a while
> now..then, only
> Ford will remain, and on shaky ground at that.  If that
> holds true for
> the larger scale of things(I suppose I should know better
> than to
> upscale local events), Chrysler, GM, Ford..in that order.
> 
> Interestingly, Leslie's email also pops up in my To:
> box, the same way 
> Bob's doesn..
> 
> Bev
> 
> 
> -- 
> The true significance of Sacajawea's involvement in the
> Lewis & Clark
> expedition is that it was the first documented trip in
> history where men
> asked a woman for directions and followed them, allowing
> them to arrive
> at their destination.
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bobf wrote:
> It's all BS.  <snip>  And, if workers want
> a Union , they need to dump UAW , and start one without the financial
> and political corruption.  Some enitites are just beyond
> help..................................

IMO, the UAW is the problem, not that I am against all unions, but it
has increased the price of the car to where they are not competitive
with other manufacturers.  Here in the southern US, there are many, many
  foreign manufacturers that are non-unionized and the workers still
make good money($20/hr or better)  The plants have revitalized local
economies and they have treated the workers well, for the most part.

A cop here who makes $12 or $15/hr, or a teacher who starts at $25k, or
even that autoworker who makes $20, cannot afford to pay the jacked up
price of a Big 3 vehicle.  That price is necessitated by paying those
workers $40-50 hour for the same job others are doing for $20.

B
--
The true significance of Sacajawea's involvement in the Lewis & Clark
expedition is that it was the first documented trip in history where men
asked a woman for directions and followed them, allowing them to arrive
at their destination.