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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

What is KR, is it like bermuda in the city, growing everywhere you don't 
want?  I don't know how things are nowadays, I just remember different people 
making suggestions to my father and his friends.  Some they trusted, some 
not.  Building trust is essential.  Someone, at some time, convinced people 
to bulldoze their yards.  I don't understand it either .....bobford

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--- On Wed, 11/5/08, eureka AT hctc.net <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:

> From: eureka AT hctc.net <eureka AT hctc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Beetle Invasion in N.E.
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 9:53 AM
> The problem here is nobody--not even the government--is
> telling them not to clear everything. In fact, as far as I
> can tell the extension agents and soil conservation
> districts are the ones actually encouraging this, and there
> are financial incentives for land owners to do so. I
> don't understand why these agencies don't see the
> impact this has on erosion and water quality. The only
> agency I know that is very concerned is the river authority
> and their hands are tied, as the majority of their funding
> is for cleaning up messes rather than educating and
> pre-empting them.
> 
> My neighbor and I have had many good conversations about
> ecology over the years, and I do so admire his ability as an
> alternative builder to think outside the box, so I was (as
> you recall) extremely floored when he cleared the land
> around us, including bull dozing the creeks, destroying a
> lot more than just our privacy. Although he bounces a lot of
> ideas off us about future projects, he did not once ask what
> we thought of this idea before he began, and continued the
> destruction well after we let him know our thoughts and gave
> him oak wilt information. As an afterthough he asked me what
> kind of grass he should plant along the denuded creek, and I
> gave him some native suggestions, and begged him not to use
> invasive KR. He swears he did not plant KR, but it is
> suddenly all over our property and his. It's heavily
> promoted by the aforementioned agencies.
> 
> He recently asked my husband if we have forgiven yet, and
> my husband said no. We all remain friends. But I will not
> hesitate to sue him if his erosion causes my land to erode,
> or if my oaks contract oak wilt from his mistakes. And I
> have never been a litigious person.
> 
> --Sage
> 
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:26:59 -0800 (PST)
>  bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I forgot to add in my first reply.  Where I grew up ,
> most of the country people would have listened to you and
> followed much of your instructions, IF :  You didn't
> tell them the gov't was making them do it.  And, you did
> not condescend to them  (and having a southern accent would
> be helpful) :-) ....bobford
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, eureka AT hctc.net
> <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: eureka AT hctc.net <eureka AT hctc.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Beetle Invasion in N.E.
> >> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com,
> homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 9:06 AM
> >> We have Oak Wilt, carried by a beetle dangerously
> close to
> >> us, about 15 minutes away. It is also often spread
> through
> >> firewood, some idiot cutting down an oak
> that's died
> >> from it and selling the wood, or using the same
> chain saw
> >> afterwards without cleaing it. If you've
> visited my blog
> >> you understand the size of our oaks and concern
> around here.
> >> 
> >> Another thing the article brings up is the loss of
> property
> >> values in the area where the destruction, and
> preventative
> >> destruction is taking place. One thing I am big on
> as a
> >> botanist is encouraging people to have trees of
> all ages,
> >> including babies and teenagers, so to speak since
> landscapes
> >> are dynamic. This helps in maintaining property
> value. I am
> >> so often amazed that people's landscapes
> include only
> >> the mature (because everything else has been
> cleared away,
> >> such as my neighbor's place) or in new
> subdivision built
> >> on scraped ground, young trees of the same
> relative age
> >> brought in for landscaping. Diversity isn't
> just limited
> >> to species, but should involve life stages as
> well.
> >> 
> >> Maybe those of you managing woodlots have an
> understanding
> >> of this, but in Texas very few do. Large ranches
> go to great
> >> lengths to take out what they see as undesirable
> underbrush
> >> through controlled burns. I understand they want
> grass and
> >> have little need of firewood, but they don't
> even
> >> protect their riparian areas. We make sure on our
> property
> >> we have trees of all ages.
> >> 
> >> --Sage
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:15:53 -0800 (PST)
> >>  bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> From this am Wash Post.  This sounds like
> a
> >> significant pestilence in Susan Jane's neck of
> the woods
> >> ....bobf
> >> > > >
> >>
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> >> > > > Authorities Hope Beetle Invasion
> Can Be Ground to a
> >> Halt
> >> >  Crystal Franciosi, a U.S. Department of
> Agriculture
> >> tree climber, records her findings after checking
> for Asian
> >> longhorned beetles in Worcester, Mass. (Stephan
> Savoia - AP)
> >> 
> >> > > WORCESTER, Mass. -- A wood-devouring
> beetle has gained
> >> a foothold in New England, and authorities plan to
> cut down
> >> large numbers of infested trees and grind them up
> to stop
> >> the pest from spreading to the region's
> celebrated
> >> forests and ravaging the timber, tourism and
> maple-syrup
> >> industries
> >> > > > > >
> >>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/04/AR2008110403574.html?hpid=sec-nation
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