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Lynda -
 
I haven't read whatever posts came in after this one - been out all morning  
and am just catching up - but your line of thinking leads me directly back to 
my  old idea that every child should be temporarily sterilized at birth. Once 
it has  had an education, and acquired employment, and proven itself to be 
competent and  responsible, then the sterilization is reversed.
 
I have had folks throw stones at me over this.
 
Sandy
Mid-Mojave
 
 
In a message dated 10/6/2008 10:06:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
lurine AT softcom.net writes:

One of  my pet peeves <g>  Rotties aren't aggressive dogs.  Rottie  "can be" 
aggressive.  Certain bloodlines have become aggressive due  to retards, 
mainly gutless males who pump up their egos by having "bad"  dogs, but in the 
main, they aren't aggressive.

They are BIG.   However, again, the problem isn't the dog, it is the people 
who own  them.

Sheesh, I think people ought to have to take a test to own an  animal!  Of 
course, most of the folks who shouldn't have animals  shouldn't have kids 
either and they do both!

Lynda
-----  Original Message ----- 
From: "bob ford"  <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>


> Just my opinion, but unless a  person is very handy with large dogs, a 150 
> lb canine ,bred to be  agressive, is too much about which to worry.
>
> My 12 pound  terrier will get so upset when the mail lady comes by, that 
> she will  hurl her body against the front door; And she went through 
> obedience  claases until she was kicked out for attacking a rottie pup 
> eight  times her size..
>
> People like Moon, Bev, etc, who have owned  large dogs know what to expect, 
> and know when they have a slap crazy  dog.  I would not own a dog that 
> weighed more than 1/2 my  weight; not even a sweetie like a st.bernard .. 
> My neighbor had an  Austrailian Shephard (inside/ yard dog , in the city).
>
> I'm not  quite clear how 'mean' you want the dog, but that A.S. was 
>  protective, and was also the most intelligent dog I have ever , 
>  personally, seen. ....bobford
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Roy  Morgan <k1lky AT earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Roy Morgan  <k1lky AT earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead  Dog
>> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Monday,  October 6, 2008, 8:52 AM
>> [Not from Roy]
>>
>>  Thanks, Ray. I have been playing around with the idea of
>> getting  an
>> Anatolian from a man I know in Virginia who makes  produces
>> really,
>> really nice dogs..(a sheepman, he  also does BCs), but
>> we've been so
>> busy trying to get  settled I put it on the back burner. I
>> might maybe
>>  expand my thinking a little. I know for sure I don't
>> want the  other
>> traditional guard dogs, like a Pyrenees, I'd  never
>> really thought of a
>> Rottie that way. I might  have to ask around my sheep
>> friends a little
>> more and  see if anyone else has had experience in that
>> direction,  too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>  Moon
>>
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:38 AM,  rayzentz AT aim.com wrote:
>>
>> > on livestock.    While I have not owned stock, I did
>> have Loki with me
>>  > on ranches and such.   They are also herders, but  not
>> to the extreme
>> > of
>> > some  breeds.   They herd by knocking, which sometimes
>>  contributes to
>> > the fear.   When I would run and  play with her, Loki
>> would often knock
>> > me in the  direction she wanted me to go.   When you
>> have a 150  pound
>> > dog knocking into you, you do have a tendancey to  go
>> her
>> > direction   ;-)
>>  >
>> > Ray
>> >
>> > She never did that  with the little ones, though.
>> >
>> > -----Original  Message-----
>> > From: Gene GeRue  <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
>> > To:  homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> > Sent: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 6:37  am
>> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Dog
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > My daughter has two  Rottweilers and loves them.
>> >
>> > But there is a  caution on Rottweilers: these are
>> powerful dogs that
>>  > can be dangerous to people and other pets. In the last
>> year I  have
>> > heard of incidents that cause me to say that I  would
>> never get such
>> > dogs except as puppies. Both  incidents were dogs
>> obtained as adults.
>> > The  results were ugly. In both cases the owners had to
>> put them  down.
>> >
>> > I've gotten dogs as adults and pups.  Pups are the
>> way to go. I have
>> > empathy for dogs  in pounds and shelters and newspaper
>> ads where the
>>  > owners want to give them away. But I will only bring a
>> pup  into our
>> > family.
>> >
>> > With an  adult dog you never know for sure what bad
>> habits or
>>  > temperament traits they possess.
>> >
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 6, 2008, at  7:09 AM, Roy Morgan wrote:
>> >
>> >> [Not from  Roy]
>> >>
>> >> Oh OH...yup, big ol' second  on
>> Rotties...I've loved the few I've had
>> >>  contact with. How are they with livestock, any
>> idea?
>>  >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:54 AM,  rayzentz AT aim.com
>> wrote:
>> >>
>>  >>>
>> >>> I haven't heard this  mentioned.   I have
>> owned Rottweilers.    Well,
>> >>> trained, in my opinion, nothing  better.   When
>> living in MT, our
>>  >>> first
>> >
>> >
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