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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

There is a simple connection between governmental centralized  control and 
loss of individual rights.  the government controls your necessities and they 
control diversity of thought produced  within media, so that you think as the 
government would like for you to think, lest you become upset, through your  
expansion of your knowledge.   If you decide to fight for diversity of though 
within media, then you are risking your health care when you try and secure 
your rights.
 
Centralized governments are not amenable to diverse thought and individual 
liberty.


I did say," Anecdotally", concerning people coming here for health care,  I 
just confirmed it.  If you don't want to take my word, that is fine.  I have 
known people who came here from two different countries (Canada and England, 
for heart surgery)
I also know many people, including relatives, who work within the private 
health care system.  Stories concerning this matter also appear, from time to 
time, in the Arizona Republic ....bobf



----- Original Message ----
From: Rob <becida AT comcast.net>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:58:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Back to socialism

At  9/21/2008 06:33 PM,bob ford wrote:


>Would you be willing to give up your first amendment right for a 
>cheaper hospital stay?  Even in Countries like Canada, the 
>degradation of rights have quickly started disappearing.

I have a real hard time seeing the link between someone who dies 
because they can't afford medical care in the USA and the First 
Amendment of the Constitution.

>>Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, 
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of 
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to 
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. <<


>  Anecdotally, Phoenix hospitals make very good money off Canadian 
> citizens who don't want to wait for things like heart surgery .

I've heard that but have never ran into anyone who could confirm it 
'first hand', I have had Canadians scoff at the story. Can you prove it?
Say Gene, can you ask your family member in Canada if they know 
anyone who went to the US for medical they could not get in Canada? 
I'm not talking about cosmetic surgery but serious, life threatening 
medical care like heart surgery.




Rob
becida AT comcast.net 

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