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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Would you be willing to give up your first amendment right for a cheaper 
hospital stay?  Even in Countries like Canada, the degradation of rights have 
quickly started disappearing.  

Try getting the Fox news Channel on broadcast television in Canada.  You 
can't -- by Government decree, just as there are historic subjects which are 
illegal to discuss, by government decree.  

You can't legally buy a firearm in Canada for the protection of your family,  
Anecdotally, Phoenix hospitals make very good money off Canadian citizens who 
don't want to wait for things like heart surgery .

I'm not going to argue with someone who has made up their mind that Socialism 
is a good thing.  It's good to be open-minded Gene, But not so open-minded 
that your brains fall out <G> ....bobf


----- Original Message ----
From: Gene GeRue genegerue AT ruralize.com


I'm still trying to get a handle on this socialism aspect of the  
presidential campaign of 2008.

One of the important conditions I am thinking about is that many  
European countries have superior stats on various quality-of-life  
factors. Canada, of course, has a superior health care system,  
regardless of the BS fed the media by certain political minions. My  
stepson and his wife and grandsons live in the Toronto area. I get  
facts, not BS. They tell me, yes, their taxes are higher than ours but  
they do not want our inferior health care system. Lots of Americans  
going up there. Lots of Americans going to India for operations. We  
can do better.

I am thinking that we have been brain washed to believe that socialism  
is bad because it is perceived by conservatives to be bad for big  
business. I think big business is overlooking a good thing. Bill Gates  
is the author of a big article in a recent Time Magazine about how  
business can do better if it adopts a social care agenda, that it is  
in fact a win-win deal.