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[Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>]

It's a minefield. In actuality, we have relatively low abortion rates 
compared to other countries, I think.  I don't know how accurate it still is, 
but check this out:
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/25s3099.html
This is an issue that cuts right down to the character and morality in 
Western society, so if we as a country, forbid abortion on those grounds as 
the ultra conservative would want, how does that play with the rest of the 
world?  Do we dare tell the Chinese - "oh and in addition to all the other 
human rights concessions we want you to make- you also need to stop 
abortions, because the unborn have rights, too".  Nope, I don't see that 
happening, because culturally, I think the majority of us actually see the 
necessity of the act in at least some circumstances.  (Let your mind go off 
on that tangent of population control and the environment, earth resources, 
etc.....I can see it now with the ultra terrorists..the right to lifers vs. 
the tree huggers..lol)
But anyway, I didn't see what you are talking about, so tell me, what did he 
say as to HOW can find middle ground, because lessening (via abstinence, 
birth control, RU486 or whatever) hasn't really worked.
I'm naive on a lot of stuff, and this seems really naive-even to me, to think 
that we could find middle ground on something so entrenched in one's personal 
morality.  I think the middle of the road approach is just postponing the 
battle, a way for politicians to keep everyone happy without actually doing 
anything.

Akka B

Robert Walton wrote:
> Obama mentioned something the other night about how we can come
> together on issues like this. For instance, whether people are pro or
> anti choice, lessening the amount of abortions should be a high
> priority.
> 
> I think that we are going to hear more politicians take this middle of
> the road approach. At least on one level it makes sense.
> 
> Rob - Va




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bob ford wrote:
>>From what I have read and heard, There are enough more registered democrats 
>>than republicans, that the only way McCain can win the electoral vote is if 
>>enough democrats are lying about for whom they will vote.
> 
> If Obama loses, it is solely because enough democrats vote for McCain.  
> And, if you don't believe that the ugliness of recism isn't just about as 
> prevalent in so called progressive democrats as it  in conservatives, then 
> you're fooling yourself.
> 
> If Obama loses, it will be because of rascist democrats.  It is that 
> simple.  If he were white he would be 25 points ahead in the polls right 
> now......bobford
> 

Nothing is that simple. Does not voting the party you are registered as 
constitute lying? The parties I most identify with (like the Green 
Party) didn't even exist when I registered. I'm free to vote for 
whomever I want, so why bother changing registration? I vote for who 
most exemplifies my philosophy on how to run the country, not for a 
party (or race or gender).

Lynn Wigglesworth



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