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[WILLIAM <billymegab AT yahoo.com>]

Here in the north country my sunflowers grow to an aweome size without any 
halp from me.  Mind you years of adding compost do encourage growth!  
Possibly it's the days are just that much longer here than further south in 
the spring and summer.  Seems to be a big advantage despite the cooler 
temperatures! 

SISU! <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:  I haven't grown any sunflowers in two 
years now for various reasons, and
I grew them mostly for animal feed, but I grew the Russian
Mammoth/Russian Giant or something like that,(I'll go and look if anyone
is that interested in the specific variety) purchased from Shumway,
IIRC. They are huge. The reason I am chiming in is to mention
something that I found works great. Bee Scent.
http://www.gardensalive.com/product.asp?pn=3007&ss=bees
I got it from gardens alive (see link) because I saw the pics of the
sunflowers, before and after, in the catalog. I didn't really expect
miracles, but it worked great and I can say that my sunflowers almost
doubled in size during the two years I used the stuff over previous
years growing the same variety in the same basic location, AND, I only
used one treatment instead of the recommended two. (I'm cheap that way
:) ) Of course, it won't lengthen the growing season for you, but it
might increase yields if you find a good variety that suites you.

Bev

Bill Jones wrote:
> Lynda wrote:
> 
> 
>> A question, what sunflowers are you growing? The growing season 
>> here is so short that we haven't found one yet that is an eatable 
>> sunflower that grows fast enough to produce seeds before our 
>> growing season is over.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ah, truly vital. This year I ordered "Miriam's Edible" and it's 
> unbelievable. I think they were from Seeds of Change. I did 
> transplants, because of the slug problem, but it was pretty late. 
> They were a foot tall when I set them out in early June. I just 
> brought in the heads. The head is almost as big as normal, but the 
> plant is only 5', so you can crowd them closer. The seeds are very 
> large with nice kernels. They're ready long before the stalk turns 
> dry, so I fed the stalks to guinea pigs. It's like getting two 
> crops! Remember to tear the backs off your flowers and turn the 
> heads as they cure. I'm drying them on screens on the sun porch.
> 
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all that sisu means, but it combines the following ideas: guts, pep,
determination, stubbornness, perseverance, hardiness, stamina, go, do,
nerve, spunk, pluck, and grit. It's like "Just Do It!" & "Go for It!")
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I have an aluminum model and it doesn't weigh a lot but it is definitely a 
super upper body workout from the abs the to arms!   Talk about chiseled!  

"Lisa K.V. Perry" <lisakvperry AT gmail.com> wrote:  On 9/15/06, VAN DELL JORDAN 
wrote:
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> How long do you have to practice sharpening the scythe
> in order to keep it sharp enough to work like that?
> Van Dell


How much does the scythe weigh? Bet it whittles your waist and good--for us
fitness freaks, that is. How do your wrists feel after?

Lisa
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Few things get we Americans more riled up than other people, 
especially government agencies, messing with our property rights. 
Earlier this year the Supremes ruled in Kelo v. New London that local 
government could take private property and transfer it to a business. 
As I expected, the fallout from that decision has caused various 
people to consider changing their state laws to overrule community rules.

Owning a large acreage is no guarantee against a taking. Indeed, 
zoning laws are a form of taking. Environmental protection laws often 
designate large areas to be very low density development. In some 
cases huge acreages have been held for decades anticipating 
development only to have those plans shut down by a new regulation. 
What is fair?

This is not a black and white issue. Many essential public 
developments including roads would not have happened if government 
had not had the right to take private land. It's one of those 
questions whose answer depends on whose ox is being gored.

The base issue is private interests versus the interests of the 
majority. Perhaps it is simply about power. That is what some of our 
forefathers taught the native Americans.

Here's an article that touches on the points:

Western Voters Weigh Shift in Property Rights

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6085168