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[WILLIAM <billymegab AT yahoo.com>]

VanDell
   
  I for one am jealous.  (a) of the hundred acres of wood to thin (I heat 
with wood a lot but have very little on my own property -- intstead I'm 
always planting).
   
  Rammed earth is a really good construction method (as long as you have 
sufficient overhang to protect from rain).  Should provide really good 
R-Value (especially with additional insulation).
   
  Radiant hot water flooring would be soooooo nice!  A ground source heat 
pump could certainly do the job but last time I looked were still fairly 
expensive. Of course I have to deal with a much colder climate!!
   
  Wiliam   

VAN DELL JORDAN <vdjor AT yahoo.com> wrote:
  Kathyann,
I have been asking a similar question. I was
considering a system similar to a ground vented heat
pump (can't remember the correct name for that
system). I wanted to use the pipes in ground to allow
the circulation medium to cool down, but instead of
consuming energy by using a heat exchanger just
sending it through coils in the floor. After getting
past the "that's not the way you do it"
I finally got an opinion that it would work but not
very efficiently, that the energy used by the
circulating system would be more than that used by a
conventional AC.


I think that a whole house circulation system that
would send air from basement to top of house and down
again might be good. The air circulation should for
stall any mold growth.


My current plan is to build a house with rammed earth
walls that would be insulated on the outside so that
temp changes would be very slow. re: heat sink. I
will use an exterior wood fired furnace, since I have
100 acres of woods to thin out. The furnace would
heat water which would circulate through coils in
floor. I'm still thinking about circulating fluid
through the ground (about 55-65 degrees?) then running
it through coils in floor, but need lots more
information about that.
I'm interested in any feedback you all have. 
Opinions or good sources on information. Am I a
complete idiot? or just partly?
Van Dell



--- KNat wrote:

> Anyone have ideas (or opinions based on reality)
> about using basement 
> cold for house cooling. I have a hot house over a
> cold basement. I'm not 
> sure I want air flow established due to potential
> molds. Is there any 
> logic to putting pipes, perhaps with a radiator,
> above and below floor 
> and finding a way to circulate it? My thought is a
> radiator by ceiling 
> of hot room and down to stones on dirt down below.
> Thoughts?
> 
> Kathyann
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Since the list is slow, I decided to go back through some old emails and
I found a personal note from last year that I wrote to Rob.  I recounted
a story to him, that you all might find amusing, too.
This happened last summer....

...... I HAVE to tell you about my near candidacy for Darwinian fame.
About two weeks ago, I went into the brooder house to retrieve the
have-a-heart trap to catch a couple of rabbits that had gotten loose.  I
rarely go in there as there is no light, no windows, and the floor is
rotten, but it is a great place to store cages and stuff now that we
aren't raising chicks.  Actually, I usually don't go in there, I just
stand outside the door and use a hoe or something to pull the cages
within reach.  It's a little room, 8x8.
When I opened the door, I heard something in there, so I shined the
flashlight around and saw a huge rat....I mean a monster rat...on a cage
looking at me.  I closed the door and went into the house to get the
pistol.  I loaded it with ratshot and regular rounds(every other one was
ratshot) and went back out to dispatch the critter.  I just knew he was
the culprit for my chickens' low production(LOL more on that later)
Anyway, I THOUGHT I had ratshot first in the order...lol....but no.
Anyway, I opened the door holding flashlight in my left hand and gun in
my right, crooked my elbow around to aim at the rat, and fired.  I
missed from 4 feet away.  I couldn't believe it....how could I miss with
ratshot from 4 feet away?!?!?(Obviously, I know now, it was a regular
round)  The damn rat is sitting there looking at me and I will be damned
I could just tell he was laughing...  So now I am pissed and decide to
stick my head in the door a little more and take better aim on the
sucker.  I fire the gun and hear "DING, DING".  I look in again, and the
rat has jumped to the floor and disappeared in a hole.  I couldn't
figure out what the ding was until I moved a box that was sitting on a
small cage.  Behind the box, and only about 6 inches from where the rat
was sitting, was <drum roll> a BIG propane tank.  I don't know how many
pounds it is, but it is bigger than the typical size, about double the
size, I would say.  I swear I got cold chills, but I comforted myself in
that the tank was empty and just being stored there.  When Ron came
home, he informed me that the tank was not empty, but full.  Can you
believe that?!?!  I would surely have made the Darwin list had I hit the
tank on my first shot.  In fact, I really don't know how I missed it.
Amazing.
So Ron gets home and I ask him to pull the tank out of the brooder
house.  We walk out to the barn and when I open the brooder house door,
I see a snake.....a big snake...I could tell that it was a large rat
snake, then I noticed that there were two snakes.  Yup, they were
mating.  It is the first time I have ever seen two wild snakes mating.
So....we got the gun....lol
But this time, we got the tank out first!
In one day, I killed(I think)...a large rat and two rat snakes.  I am
now getting 7 eggs a day again after I was only getting 1 or 2.  It was
a helluva day in the barn!
.......

Note: said brooder house is no longer..we ripped out the floor and
walls, and now it is just open area storage.  We did that a few weeks
after we found yet another snake in there.
Since the list is kind of slow, what about some of you sharing your own
brush with Darwinian fame.....

Bev
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erthnsky AT bellsouth.net  BevanRon of EarthNSky Farm      NW Georgia USDA Zone 7
34.498N 85.076W