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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] The roots of Muslim rage
  • Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:00:46 -0800

It has been years in the making, Marie. What we see "now" is the result of what was being done then.

The U.S. isn't terribly popular anywhere because of their policies of snitty superiority. Also, our labeling of people. Everyone who even vaguely looks like they might have some ancestor that comes from the Middle East is quickly labeled an "evil" Muslim with that snear and look down the nose that Americans are reknown for.

Slap a label on them and treat them as inferior is the standard for American behavior when folks are out of this country. We didn't become known as the Ugly Americans without due cause.

I saw it when I was five traveling in England with my grandfather. ("What a delightful little girl" with that sound of "I can't believe she's an American" in their voices.) I asked Grampa about it later and he said he'd beent old by people that they were "pleasantly surprised" that I had manners and new how to behavior in "polite society."

I saw it later when we traveled to Bahrain, Spain and Russian to the national stud farms. They expected people who hadn't bothered to learn their customs and who were rude and pushy. People who thought they could throw money at things and get what they wanted.

I still see it in some of the correspondence with folks in other countries. They expect Americans to have a "tude" which equates to "I'm an American and I'm superior."

And we saw it right after 9/11 with the folks who owned two of the little Mom & Pop stores in our neighborhood. It was really a sorry state of affairs that they felt it was necessary to post signs saying they weren't from Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan and that they weren't Muslim. Later they posted signs saying "thank you" and explaining that their prior experiences had been in large cities back East and they appreciated how people treated them in our little town.

These things are created over night. This is a result of years and years of behavior on the part of our government.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie McHarry" <mmcharry AT dtnspeed.net>

Lynda, you lost me with this paragraph. Muslims were tolerant under the
caliphate, but today religious Muslims in religious states (the Taliban,
present-day Iran, and a substantial part of Africa, Saudi Arabia) aren't
winning awards for tolerance. (Of course, we could have the same situation
here if our own fundamentalists took over.) I'm not sure how "Christians
stopped that." It looks more to me like the rise of fundamentalist to
positions of power. In modern times, religious tolerance in Islamic
countries appears to have resided in the strong ruler (the Shah and Saddam
-- the Christians were protected under Saddam -- come to mind).

Marie


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