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- From: tvoivozhd <tvoivozd AT infionline.net>
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- Subject: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation
- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:28:30 -0500
December 27, 2004, 10:05 a.m.
The Lesson of Thrift
Personal accounts already work (which might be why the critics are so scared).
Critics of the Bush administration plan to reform Social Security with personal accounts have a seemingly endless supply of reasons why it can’t possibly work. You know the litany: It’s too risky. It’s too expensive. It’s too complicated.
The critics never mention that there’s already a government-administered retirement system that has shown for over 15 years that personal accounts are prudent, inexpensive, and simple. It’s the Thrift Savings Plan of the United States federal government, currently serving 3.3 million government employees. (AHA, the truth will out---3.3 million GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES---NOT the individual or collective sucker having wages withheld and sweet-talked into the illusion of all-gain, no-pain individual accounts shovelled into the clutches of those kindly, benevolent traders waving pieces of paper on the floor of a commodity exchange---and their accomplices in the back office of a Wall Street Stock Brokerage firm.
The years since Thrift was first offered in 1987 couldn’t make for a better laboratory to crash-test a personal-account system. During this period there have been both bull and bear markets that were among the most severe in history. Through year-end 2003, investments in Thrift personal accounts have earned $44.4 billion in profits for system participants — an average of more than $13,000 per participant.
Over time and on average, 65 percent of the value of Thrift participant accounts has been invested in a special money-market account operated by the U.S. Treasury. That’s been responsible for about $20.3 billion of the total investment gains. But almost as much — $19.8 billion — came from an S&P 500 Index fund. That’s remarkable because, on average, only 30 percent of the value of participant accounts has been invested in the S&P 500 fund.
tvoivozhd---the above plan bears zero relationship to the Bush proposal which should be deep-sixed out of hand. The Bush proposal is NOT personal investment in a cheaply managed index fund----it envisions each individual account be managed (as an individual account) by a stock broker---20% being siphoned off annually as broker administrative cost. I have never seen a rational explanation of how you can bleed off 20% of your capital each year and make an investment account profit on the 80% remainder. The odds of doing so are about five percent better if you are yanking on the handle of a slot machine in Las Vegas.
A little truth in argument is always helpful---Bush is NOT advocating that the poor working stiff has access to the U.S. Thrift Savings Plan exclusively available to Federal Employees---now that would really panic the Cato Institute and everyone in The White House.
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[Homestead] Personal Account disinformation,
tvoivozhd, 12/30/2004
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Re: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation,
Gene GeRue, 12/30/2004
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Re: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation,
tvoivozhd, 12/30/2004
- Re: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation, Gene GeRue, 12/30/2004
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Re: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation,
tvoivozhd, 12/30/2004
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Re: [Homestead] Personal Account disinformation,
Gene GeRue, 12/30/2004
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