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["Fred Enga" <fenga AT astechman.com>]

Paul,

I am not a Xtian.  I celebrate Jul as did my ancestors for the last 6,000
years.  You do your thing and I will do mine

Cheers

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: homestead-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:homestead-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Paul Hillman
Sent: November 29, 2004 4:11 PM
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Wrong Answer, was Who started this
ChristmasThing?


Lynda,

The word Christmas derives from, "Christ's Mass", ......duh!! Sort of a
Christian thingy??

The season was melded with the "pagan" winter-rituals, for the sake of
enlightening the ignorant to the true meaning of the "seasons" as God had
first created them to be.

>From the very beginning of the Creation God knew that a salvation would be
needed for those who would go astray from there first intended estates. The
whole creation reveals God and His designs and intentions. Pagans could see
these things in minor ways, but never understood their deeper meanings until
God sent His Son, to reveal it all.

Sure is hard, trying to teach Neo, or long-term pagans all of this!!

Paul Hillman
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Lynda<mailto:lurine AT softcom.net>
  To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org<mailto:homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:10 PM
  Subject: [Homestead] Wrong Answer, was Who started this ChristmasThing?


  That's a nice story, Paul, but is simply that a nice story.  Fact is, we
  have the Romans and Northern Europeans to thank for the whole gift giving
  thing and it had nothing to do with Jesus.
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