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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

> >clhw wrote:

> >Is tissue culture essentially the same as cloning?
> >I helped a friend, a microbiologist, clone some rosemary about 15 years
> >ago. She set up an entire college lab room with culture trays, agitators,
> >etc. The plants looked beautiful as they grew. The thing was, they had no
> >aroma nor taste. The essential oils were not carried forward with the
> >cloned tissue.
>  
> tvoivozhd---something wrong with that outcome---the principal virtue of 
tissue culture is that the resulting plants are identical to the plant 
from which the tissue culture was  made.

Maybe they need a shot of Roundup ?
I was hoping that trees/shrubs would
take longer for monstersanto to f over ...
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Subject: [Homestead] Restricting the free flow of information equals
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Even while we ostensibly fight for Iraqi citizens' rights to the free flow 
of information, we restrict our own. Sounds to me like a double standard.

Bound but Gagged
By SHIRIN EBADI

Published: November 16, 2004

Tehran — When I received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2003, Iranians and 
Muslims around the world hoped that the prevailing and unfair image of 
Muslims as terrorists would be discarded. We believed that the prize would 
encourage a positive, forward-looking understanding of Islam. We hoped that 
our belief in an interpretation of Islam that is in harmony with democracy, 
equality, religious freedom and freedom of speech would reach a wider 
audience, particularly in the West.
For many years now, I have wanted to write my memoir - a book that would 
help correct Western stereotypes of Islam, especially the image of Muslim 
women as docile, forlorn creatures. Sixty-three percent of Iran's 
university students and 43 percent of its salaried workers are women. I 
have wanted to tell the story of how women in Islamic countries, even one 
run by a theocratic regime as in Iran, can be active politically and 
professionally. It is my impression, based on the conversations I have had 
during my travels in the United States and Europe, that such a book would 
be a welcome addition to the debate about Islam and the West.
So I was surprised and angered when I learned that regulations in the 
United States make it nearly impossible for me to write a book for 
Americans. Despite federal laws that say that American trade embargoes may 
not restrict the free flow of information, the Treasury Department's Office 
of Foreign Assets Control continues to regulate the import of books from 
Iran, Cuba and other countries. In order to skirt the laws protecting the 
flow of information, the government prohibits publishing "materials not 
fully created and in existence." Therefore, I could publish my memoir in 
the United States, but it would be illegal for an American literary agent, 
publisher, editor or translator to help me.
Iranians and other Muslims have long placed great value on the power of the 
written word. My parents taught my siblings and me that ideas on the page 
can be put into action. My husband and I have passed these values to our 
daughters. Iran is bursting with young, educated and dynamic people who are 
eager to communicate with the American public. Many of our university 
students and scholars have tried to publish their papers in leading 
American journals, but they have been turned away out of fear of the 
Treasury Department's regulations. An American scientific journal, for 
instance, recently declined to run a paper on the human and economic 
consequences of the catastrophic earthquake last year in Bam, Iran, because 
Iranian scientists helped write it and therefore the journal would have to 
obtain a license to publish it. (Newspapers are exempt from some of these 
requirements.)
Since 1979, when I was removed from the judiciary after clerics ruled that 
women were too "emotional" to be judges, I have been defending women, 
children and human rights advocates as an independent lawyer. I learned, 
sometimes in the face of tragedy, that the written word is often the most 
powerful - and only - tool that we have to protect those who are powerless. 
Many of my cases have placed me in opposition to hard-liners in our 
government. I have been harassed, threatened and jailed for defending human 
rights and pursuing justice for victims of violence: most recently when I 
led the legal team representing the family of Zahra Kazemi, an 
Iranian-Canadian photojournalist who was killed in July 2003 while in 
detention in Tehran. (She had been arrested for taking photographs of the 
families of political prisoners outside the notorious Evin prison.)
I cannot publish my memoir in Iran. The book would either be banned 
altogether or censored to such an extent that it would be rendered useless. 
Publishing my book in the United States would involve risk and 
repercussions for me back in Iran. I believe, however, that the message of 
the book is so important that I will happily accept the risk and its 
possible consequences.
If even people like me - those who advocate peace and dialogue - are denied 
the right to publish their books in the United States with the assistance 
of Americans, then people will seriously question the view of the United 
States as a country that advocates democracy and freedom everywhere. What 
is the difference between the censorship in Iran and this censorship in the 
United States? Is it not better to encourage a dialogue between Iranians 
and the American public?
This is why I filed a lawsuit against the Treasury Department on Oct. 26, 
joining one filed in September by several American organizations 
representing publishers, editors and translators. We seek to overturn the 
regulations on what Americans can and cannot read in the United States.
Human rights, including the freedom to read whatever one wishes, are 
universal values that transcend national boundaries. Therefore, just as I 
take on court cases in Tehran to defend others' rights, so must I follow my 
conscience and take on a lawsuit in the United States to defend my own 
rights and the rights of Americans.
Shirin Ebadi is a law professor at the University of Tehran.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/16/opinion/16ebadi.html