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Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet
- From: nancy szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net>
- To: gardenwriters-on-gardening <gwl-g@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet
- Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:27:10 -0400
Your point is well take Doreen. However, with Vine-x the dreaded triclopy is
packaged in a sealed container with a paint brush applicator. It is
applied only to the stem or trunk of the plant not the leaves. Unlike other
herbicides it need not be applied to the point of runoff. There is no
chance of overspray and little chance of over-application so impact to the
surrounding environment is minimal. I have used Vine-X in my yard on
persistent invasives and have had no damage to surrounding plants. My
recommendation was in reference to controlling persistent invasive plants
not the casual application herbicide.
Nancy Szerlag
>>> As for, the persistence in soil, as reported at
>>> http://infoventures.com/e-hlth/pestcide/triclopy.html, is as follows:
>
> If you go to this site, you'll see that the product is sold under the name
> Grazon, among others. Grazon has a long history of persisting in the
> environment, including the soil. Hay harvested from Grazon-sprayed fields
> kills plants mulched with it, and animals fed the hay retain the herbicide
> in their gut and pass it through in their manure. Even when it (the manure)
> is composted, Grazon is present.
>
> The USDA information site (referenced above) is almost verbatim from the
> Grazon packaging. The USDA and other government agencies have a long
> history of using herbicides to clear lands and then paying off lawsuits from
> those landowners downwind or peripheral to the application who suffer
> damage.
>
> Idaho's potato farmers sued the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) when they
> applied a Grazon relative to clean off fire breaks. Potato crops failed for
> several years, and the land cannot be cleared of the herbicide. U.S.
> Senator Larry Craig submitted an amendment to the 2002 Agricultural
> Appropriations bill to provide $49 million in financial compensation to the
> affected farmers. It was stripped by Congress before passage. More than
> 100 Idaho farmers and ranchers sued DuPont, several herbicide applicators
> and the BLM in April 2002 for loss of profits, land value, production, rent
> income and reputation. Damages could be in the hundreds of million dollars
> range, according to Boise, Idaho attorney Walter Bithell, who represents the
> farmers.
>
> My point--and I do have one--is to think twice and even three times before
> casually applying an herbicide, especially a powerful one.
> Doreen Howard
>
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[gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Jrnatter, 10/16/2004
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Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Jeff Lowenfels, 10/16/2004
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RE: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Gloria Day, 10/16/2004
- RE: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet, Gloria Day, 10/16/2004
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RE: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Gloria Day, 10/16/2004
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Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Doreen Howard, 10/16/2004
- Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet, nancy szerlag, 10/16/2004
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- Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet, ApisMNO, 10/16/2004
- Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet, Jacqueline Heriteau, 10/16/2004
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Re: [gwl-g] Re: triclopyr, clopyralid -- was killing privet,
Jeff Lowenfels, 10/16/2004
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